Town Square

Post a New Topic

Palo Alto trims managers' benefits, eyes reforms

Original post made on Sep 5, 2012

Palo Alto took a giant step on its road toward reducing employee costs Tuesday night when it approved a contract that forces about 200 managers to contribute more toward their pension and health care expenses. ==B Related story:== [Web Link Palo Alto's ticking time bomb]

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, September 5, 2012, 2:41 PM

Comments (12)

Posted by What's-She-Been--Smoking?, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 5, 2012 at 6:00 pm

> Nancy Sheppard said: 'This is hard for the City Council too ..'

You have to wonder what Nancy Sheppard thought she was getting into when she decided to run for City Council. She continues to act like running a City government is nothing more than a big party, where you give away taxpayer funds to your friends, family and the special interests that contributed to your campaign.

Sheppard has never given any sense that she has read a budget, or even wants to. Let's hope she decides not to run .. as she has been of no benefit to the general population of Palo Alto.


Posted by Frank, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 5, 2012 at 8:15 pm

I'm I reading this right? They having the empolyee pay 7% more towards their pension, but then the city is giving them a 3% raise! When most cities are making the employees pay 10 to 20% more for their pensions, Palo Alto is giving raises. Oh, and the savings is only $109k per year. Nice job city council.


Posted by common sense, a resident of Midtown
on Sep 5, 2012 at 8:16 pm

What's-She-Been-Smoking - For Nancy, it's always about herself, about how much work she needs to do, about how hard it is for her, etc. etc. She's been a puppet of the unions & development special interests, and her votes on issues shows it.

After the infrastructure commission came out with their report, she was a part of the council faction that didn't want to make infrastructure a priority - it would cut into her ability to dole out the city budget to her special interest supporters.


Posted by Neighbor, a resident of Greenmeadow
on Sep 5, 2012 at 9:18 pm

@Frank -- you misread the article. The $109k/year savings comes from the employee contributions to health care. The retirement contributions are in addition to that, although the amount saved is not included in the article.


Posted by guest, a resident of Crescent Park
on Sep 5, 2012 at 10:36 pm

Terminating 100 would be better.


Posted by common sense, a resident of Midtown
on Sep 5, 2012 at 10:36 pm

By giving the managers a 3% raise, their future pension benefits go up, the value of their unpaid sick leave and vacation time goes up, and the liability the taxpayers have goes up as well for the unfunded part of the pension liability.


Posted by David Pepperdine, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 6, 2012 at 10:27 am

This is like throwing a pebble to fill a hole that's the Grand Canyon.
The city bureaucracy is bloated and top-heavy.


Posted by Tyler Hanley, online editor of Palo Alto Online
on Sep 6, 2012 at 11:16 am

Tyler Hanley is a registered user.

The following comment was moved from a duplicate thread:

Posted by randy albin, a resident of Mountain View, 20 hours ago

how much does it now cost to live in palo alto? there once was a middle class in palo alto. indeed the old days are gone. what in the world?-the bay area is this high in cost of living? no wonder there are odd people up and down university avenue in downtown palo alto. who could have thunk that it would ever be like this?


Posted by Must be nice..., a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Sep 6, 2012 at 11:46 am

"The new contract with the non-unionized group of managers and professionals achieves concessions similar to those the city recently agreed to with its largest police union, its firefighters unions and with the Service Employees International Union..."

The managers new contract is "similar" except for the fact they are getting a 3% raise disimilarly to the line level workers in the other departments. The police officers for example got no such raise.

Web Link


Posted by MEMBER, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Sep 6, 2012 at 12:47 pm

THIS IS REFORM!!! When all non-governmental workers have HAD to be covered by Social Security (which is controlled by a Congress that didn't think it was good enough for themselves), Congress,at will can refuse to grant COLA raises. ALSO, we paid taxes on our vacation time and also, if we were sick and got paid, taxes were taken out. Now we are being told that with all the raiding by the Government of this fund, it may not last. At the same time, we are bing told that we will owe thousands of dollars to people who have not even paid into a retirement fund!. We get to watch overpaid management run up enormous benefits -1. SICK LEAVE (wasn't this supposed to be in case you were ill you would still have money for your expenses?) NOT ADDITIONAL PAID VACATION TIME, 2. UNUSED VACATION TIME, AN ADDITIONAL PERK ADDED. It should either be used or lost - it definitely should not not be left to accumulate! AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I THINK IT IS TIME TO DOWNSIZE - just try to try to get someone on the telephone - it seems you end up talking to every employee AND YOU STILL CAN'T GET AN ANSWER!!!


Posted by jardins, a resident of Midtown
on Sep 6, 2012 at 1:53 pm

@ Palo Alto Online writer of this article: this AIN'T giants steps!

* 1200 city workers, the article says.
* 200 managers--for that number of workers, and for a city the size of Palo Alto??!! And the salaries of these managers--and the fact that they pay ONLY 9% of their health costs, AND get a 3% pay raise??!!

Ye gods!

NOT giant steps but an ant's single footstep . . .


Posted by Dig Deeper into Mgmt Pockets, a resident of another community
on Sep 6, 2012 at 3:33 pm

"We know this is painful," Councilwoman Nancy Shepherd said toward the end of the discussion. "It's painful for the council, and I really appreciate the management group for making these changes so that we can bring ourselves back into sustainability."

Hell, they never publicly apologized to me for forcing retirement!

[Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.] BUT why don't they just take away all the fringe benefits like extra two weeks vacation a year, ability to save vacation pay and put it into deferred comp, tuition reimbursement (which no other employees get), etc. These managers STILL make tons of money. Clean management out like they did to union workers.


If you were a member and logged in you could track comments from this story.

Post a comment

Posting an item on Town Square is simple and requires no registration. Just complete this form and hit "submit" and your topic will appear online. Please be respectful and truthful in your postings so Town Square will continue to be a thoughtful gathering place for sharing community information and opinion. All postings are subject to our TERMS OF USE, and may be deleted if deemed inappropriate by our staff.

We prefer that you use your real name, but you may use any "member" name you wish.

Name: *

Select your neighborhood or school community: * Not sure?

Comment: *

Verification code: *
Enter the verification code exactly as shown, using capital and lowercase letters, in the multi-colored box.

*Required Fields

Most Seniors do not Need Senior Housing But Could Benefit from other Choice to Remain in Palo Alto
By Steve Levy | 45 comments | 1,866 views

Custom pizza joint on its way to Mountain View
By Elena Kadvany | 4 comments | 1,726 views

"The Galapagos Affair: Satan Came to Eden"
By Anita Felicelli | 0 comments | 1,192 views

I Spy
By Cheryl Bac | 4 comments | 1,049 views

The Cinderella ride
By Sally Torbey | 10 comments | 815 views