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on Aug 29, 2012
This is nonsense. At any red light you can spot them, the people dropping their heads to play on their phones. You see people talking on handhelds while driving all the time as well. Every day, every time I'm in the car for more than about 10 minutes. We need a group like MADD to form in order to lobby against the phone companies lobbyists.
If its as dangerous as drunk driving, we should copy the punishments that have lead to the decline of drunk driving. Huge fines, jail/community service, license suspension, points on the driving record, weekly education classes, increased insurance rates. This is what's needed to curb this behavior.
I know 2 people (pedestrians) who were killed by drivers using cell phones. One was texting while driving when he hit my friend. I agree with the previous comment that penalties and enforcement need to be much tougher. Adding points for cell phone offenses is a first step, but this needs to go much further. I hope that Sen. Simitian and Gov. Brown aren't taking "campaign contributions" from the cell phone industry to keep these penalties low.
I agree, this is crap. Why not move the fine for first offenders from $20 to $150? Add a 3 strikes clause that if you are caught 3 times your license is suspended for 3 months? I see people texting and driving every day so it is obvious that people who text don't take this serious. It is pretty pathetic.
I stopped texting people years ago, I got tired of being interrupted by "how r u?" and other stupid things. It is usually a waste of time.
Jack up those ticket prices so people HAVE to stop. It should be the price of a carpool ticket on the first violation! LET"S GET THIS DONE!
I know someone who got a talking ticket one day, and a texting ticket the very next day, by the same cop in the same area! My daughter got a talking ticket and now just uses speaker phone.
I, just like >Won't Work Joe, see people EVERY DAY on their phones...all ages. I honk at people and shake my phone at them. They probably laugh and keep talking.
But if we can see it so much and so easily, why don't the cops??!!
I suspect the CTIA, the big cell vendors, and others have lobbied hard to keep these fines low. It's interesting that they worked hard to put up cell towers along highways so drivers and others in vehicles get signals. It's like the U.S. booze industry.
I see nothing wrong with texting at a red light, while stopped. However, I have noticed that so many drivers do this that when the light turns green, there is a pause before they begin driving, which has resulted in me missing a green light due to the lapse in time. I doubt any policeman would ticket anyone who is texting while stopped at a light. Keep those cell phones higher, so you can watch the light turn green at the same time!
To text while driving, there is no way a driver can watch the road simultaneously. Yes, driver's ought to be cited for texting while driving!
In the end, unfortunately, there aren't enough policemen to enforce the law.
How about a bill that requires a fine of $15,000 for every bill introduced by Joe Simitian that adds nothing to society, and another $100,000 for every bill introduced by Sen. Simitian that just increases fines for some activity he's already tried to ban anyway.
@ Garden Gnome - ??? Not sure if you mean that the fine is so low that it means nothing or that the bill in general means nothing?
I think the bill is good, but the fines are WAY TOO LOW - the people caught should FEEL THE PAIN when paying that ticket!!
I JUST sat at a red light while this broad was yakking on the phone. I just shook my head and then blasted my music! HAHAHAHA!
I'm curious how a $30 fine becomes $199. What are these "other penalties and fees"? I thought the fine was supposed to be the penalty. If we are reimbursing the government an amount of $169 to collect a $30 check, I'd say something needs to be outsourced here.
Texting is the new DUI and may start killing as many people. The penalties for texting while driving should be the same as for DUI. Texting while stopped at a light should not be illegal though it can be a major discourtesy.
The LAPD seems to have their own idea about how to deal with people who are using their cell phones when driving:
Joe Simitian can take a bow, for he's a part of this injustice to this woman. Let's hope the cops involved end up losing their jobs, and spending some time behind bars. But somehow, I expect Simitian will not see his part in this.
He has failed to do adequate research using real data, to back up his claims about cellphones and driving.
@ Clueless: Really? She was an idiot. The cops over-reacted to her being an idiot. The cell phone law had nothing to do with the f-bombing idiot and the over-reaction by the officers.
> The cell phone law had nothing ..
No cell phone law .. no pull over. The cop's behavior was clearly an over-reaction to her language, but there is little in this situation that suggests she was endangering anyone.
This is another of Joe Simitian's nanny state mindset. This community, and state, is not well-served by this control freak.
"Theres nothing wrong with texting while stopped at a light"- that is such a Palo Alto statement trying to push the envelope on every issue. If you are operating a vehicle, ie behind the steering wheel with the engine on, then you should be applying your full attention.
as for the lady who got stopped for talking on the cell, then smashed by the police, she shouldnt have mouthed off, and should have known you dont get out of the car during a traffic stop unless told by the officers. her actions probly made her appear to be a meth/crackhead. for the officers, they should have just tazered her a few times.
Joe Simitian continues to regurgitate his same old bills. We got it Joe! Guess Joe was sitting around with nothing to do and came up this epiphany. What, if any, ideas does Joe have to increase employment in California, bring the California deficit down, fix the California education system, stop needless deficit spending, etc.,etc....
It would seem Joe is locked into his one track thinking that only serves Joe and getting himself on the 5 o'clock news. What a pity!
When the fine is $20, don't forget all of the fees assessed on top of the $20 by the court that will bring it up to $140 or higher depending on where you were stopped.
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