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Time for true monument to Reagan in DC?

Original post made by Jerry on May 21, 2012

Ronald Reagan was far ahead of his time, yet he was also in the center of it. He foresaw missle defense, when most thought it ridiculous. Now, we see a French socialist supporting it, using Reagan's logic.

It is time for a big monument to Reagan in DC, like the Washington Monument, Lincoln Memorial. His detractors were consistently less intellgient than him, although they always claimed that he was a dunce. He won the cold war, brought back America and outfoxed his detractors, including a couple of his own kids. He is a giant among presidents.

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Where should the Reagan Memorial be placed in DC? Design? Paid for by private donations, of course.

Comments (59)

Posted by Ronnie, a resident of Los Altos
on May 21, 2012 at 12:18 pm

No.

Reagan couldn't get elected in today's GOP:

- amnestied illegals
- 7 tax hikes, including the largest middle class tax hike ever
- tripled the national debt
- doubled the Dept of Education

and on and on....


Posted by Jerry, a resident of Midtown
on May 21, 2012 at 12:40 pm

Washington owned slaves. Lincoln was a racist, by today's standards. and he violated habeus corpus. Yet, they were great presidents. Reagan won the cold war, because he was so much wiser and intellgient than his contemporaries That, alone, is enough.

Time to build the monument. As an interesting design fearture, perhaps there can be a time capsule buried, to be dug up in 100 years...it would contain newspaper articles from the 1980's, both pro and con about Reagan. Personally, I would not like to be the author of the articles that ridiculed Reagan...there were many such articles that ridiculed Lincoln, in the 1850s/60s...but Lincoln is the one who is remembered.


Posted by fdr first, a resident of Stanford
on May 21, 2012 at 12:51 pm

After they build the monument to FDR, we can talk about Ronnie


Posted by Jerry, a resident of Midtown
on May 21, 2012 at 1:14 pm

"After they build the monument to FDR, we can talk about Ronnie"

I thought they were already doing this. My father said he cried, out in the Pacific battle theatre, having been part of major combat...FDR was his CiC, when he heard that FDR died. However, he said Reagan really touched his heart, and was a better leader. Time to talk about Ronnie.

Really big monument, like Washington, Lincoln. He deserves it.


Posted by fdr first, a resident of Stanford
on May 21, 2012 at 1:19 pm

"However, he said Reagan really touched his heart, and was a better leader. Time to talk about Ronnie."

I doubt your father said that, but anyway Ronnie was not even in the same league as Lincoln, Washington or Roosevelt.
Maybe in another 50-100 years, we can talk about a small statue for Ronnie. His lack of compassion for HIV+ people alone disqualifies him having anything built at this time.
Plus no republican these days could support a monument for someone who amnestied illegals, pushed through 7 tax hikes, including the largest middle class tax hike ever, tripled the national debt and doubled the Dept of Education. Plus he was an adulterer.


Posted by curmudgeon, a resident of Downtown North
on May 21, 2012 at 1:44 pm

Eashington already has two fitting monuments to Ronald Reagan:

1) The Ronald Reagan Building, a huge monument to the bloated federal bureaucracy that Reagan maintained (the number of people working for the federal government peaked during the Reagan administration), and
2) The Reagan National Airport, an outmoded facility that has been kept open for the convenience of boondoggling federal types. (Yes, they'll let you use it too, as window dressing.)


Posted by Jerry, a resident of Midtown
on May 21, 2012 at 2:00 pm

"I doubt your father said that"

Yes he did! I should know. He is still alive, and active at 92 years of age, and he still says it. He loved FDR, as his CiC, but he loves the memory of RWR even more.

Reagan needs his own major monument, because he was a great president. He would probably object to it (like Washington, Linclon, FDR), but he still deserves it. Private donations, only. First: Pick the spot in DC, then have a design competition (chosen by the donation committee). This is something that the current Congress can agree on...time to do it!


Posted by fdr first, a resident of Stanford
on May 21, 2012 at 2:13 pm

"Yes he did! I should know. He is still alive, and active at 92 years of age, and he still says it. He loved FDR, as his CiC, but he loves the memory of RWR even more."
Doubt it. Propoganda.

"Reagan needs his own major monument, because he was a great president. "
Too early to say. I have listed the issues why no republican would support such a monument.

"Private donations, only."
Go for it. Any citizen can buy land and build a monument. As long as not a single penny of tax payer is spent on this white elephant

'This is something that the current Congress can agree on...time to do it!"
if it is a private enterprise, congress does not have to be involved. Plus no republican could support this for reagen given the issues I have listed.
Plus he was a serial adulterer.
If it means so much to you get i n touch with Rickets, the Koch brothers and other rich republicans. I am sure they could provide you with the money right away. No need to involve congress



Posted by Jerry, a resident of Midtown
on May 21, 2012 at 2:28 pm

FDR was an adulterer, big time.

My father feels exactly as I have desrbied it (no prapagands, whatsoever!).

Reagan haters cannot compete with him in history...they are not very smart. He was.

Reagan left a lower marginal tax rate, by far, and that was the basis of supply side economic booms, including Clinton's.

Reagan was a political genius. He won the cold war! Amazing!!!!

Build him a big monument in DC. All Congress needs to do is to release the land on the Mall, sold for the same price as the other monuments (zero). Shouldn't cost the American taxpayer a dime.

I suggest that Barbara Boxer bring up the bill in the US Senate, since Reagan was a California governor and resident. I think she will get high levels of support. Perhpaps Anna Eshoo can do the same in the House. It would be a nice touch, and an attempt to cross the isles with a peace pipe.


Posted by fdr first, a resident of Stanford
on May 21, 2012 at 2:35 pm

"FDR was an adulterer, big time."
Two wrongs do not make a right.

"Reagan haters cannot compete with him in history...they are not very smart. He was."
Huh?????

"Reagan was a political genius. He won the cold war! Amazing!!!!"
Revisionist history.

"Build him a big monument in DC. All Congress needs to do is to release the land on the Mall, sold for the same price as the other monuments (zero). Shouldn't cost the American taxpayer a dime."
You keep on saying that this will be private money. Then go out and raise the money. Then offer to buy the land and build the monument. No need to involve Congress in it now.
You seem so gung ho on this matter, I am not sure why you are wasting time posting on this forum instead of getting the money together for your monument.

"I suggest that Barbara Boxer bring up the bill in the US Senate, since Reagan was a California governor and resident. I think she will get high levels of support. Perhpaps Anna Eshoo can do the same in the House. It would be a nice touch, and an attempt to cross the isles with a peace pipe."
Very amusing. It is the republicans that need to cross the aisle with the peace pipe. In this current atmosphere, if the democrats bring it up, the republicans would have to oppose it.
After all Reagen worked with democrats, amnestied illegals, pushed through 7 tax hikes, including the largest middle class tax hike ever, tripled the national debt and doubled the Dept of Education. Plus he was an adulterer. Reagen went against God's (Grover Norquist's) doctrine by raising taxes--no self-respecting republican could support a monument for him now. Reagen was the ultimate RINO.

good luck fundraising, Jerry. Make sure you hit up Perspective, Samuel, Sharon and Gary for a donation.


Posted by s, a resident of Barron Park
on May 21, 2012 at 2:42 pm

Peace pipe? How old are you?

When was the last time the GOP congress croosed over with a peace pipe.

Reagan doubled payroll taxes on the middle class and let the rich off without paying a dime more than the middle class schmuck earning 110,000 a year.

Total attck on American middle class workers.


Posted by ron the unionizer, a resident of Barron Park
on May 21, 2012 at 2:48 pm

Reagan was a union leader.

Then told us that the right of collective bargaining was the sign of free people everywhere.

Allowed and signed collective bargaining for public employees in California.

Could not get through a GOP primary today.

Buy yourown statue. And land. And support it through trickle down from the Kocks.


Posted by Jerry, a resident of Midtown
on May 21, 2012 at 2:50 pm

"No need to involve Congress in it now."

Wrong. Congress controls the real estate on the Mall. It simply needs to release a portion of it, like it did for the FDR Memorial.

This should be a no-brainer. Congress can get this done in one month, and each side should feel good about it. A real peace pipe.


Posted by ron the unionizer, a resident of Barron Park
on May 21, 2012 at 2:58 pm

Again with the peace pipe?

Answer the question... what was the last peace offering by this GOP congress?

No public funds or land. Use the invisible hand of the free market and buy some land. Prove that trickle down works for once, instead of tripling the national debt.


Posted by fdr first, a resident of Stanford
on May 21, 2012 at 3:01 pm

"Wrong. Congress controls the real estate on the Mall. It simply needs to release a portion of it, like it did for the FDR Memorial."
Maybe when you have a serious proposal and money in hand, they will "release" the land.
But why not put the monument in a more suitable spot for Reagen--Philadelphia in Neshoba County,Mississippi.

"Congress can get this done in one month, and each side should feel good about it. "
Why would the republicans feel good about honoring a RINO- a man who worked with democrats, amnestied illegals, pushed through 7 tax hikes, including the largest middle class tax hike ever, tripled the national debt and doubled the Dept of Education. Plus he was an adulterer

Didn;t Reagen say to hell with gays they do not vote for us anyway and didn;t Reagen also make a visit to an SS cemetery in Germany??


Posted by Jerry, a resident of Midtown
on May 21, 2012 at 3:44 pm

Reagan, still irritates his enemies and inferiors. Nothing new.

However, it it time to build the grand monument. His inferiors will not need to visit it, nor will they need to pay for it. The current US Congress can relase the land, at no cost to the taxpayer. It would be a healing gesture for the country. Very low hangng fruit. If President Obama gets behind it, he may win the election...thus very good politics, too.

It is time to put hate aside, and recognize a truly great president.


Posted by peace pipe, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on May 21, 2012 at 3:53 pm

Time to put hate aside?!?

"...still irritates his enemies and inferiors."

Way to go, buttering up the folks you want to join you.

All in one message Jerry.... do you even read the stuff you post?


Posted by Jerry, a resident of Midtown
on May 21, 2012 at 4:05 pm

I don't hate Reagan, quite the opposite. However, I do recognize that some still hate him. They lost the judgement of history, but it is not too late to come aboard. Reagan would welcome them. He had a big heart.

BTW, Reagan was opposed within his own ranks, because they thought he was crazy to demand an end to the Soviet Union ("tear down that wall!") and also thinking and promoting a zero option on nukes and also promoting SDI. Reagan was way ahead of his time. A political genius.

Build the monument!


Posted by Barney, a resident of Portola Valley
on May 21, 2012 at 4:50 pm

Jerry, are you purposely being obtuse?

Poster "peace pipe" asked why you think others should put their hate aside (your "time to put hate aside") when you make hateful statements such as "...still irritates his ... inferiors."

Then you pile on and say "They lost the judgement...".

Wow. Way to go, way to win friends and influence people. Seriously, go read the book.

You asked. A half dozen folks said you're crazy.

Wait for the guy to be dead fifty years.

Next.







Posted by Jerry, a resident of Midtown
on May 21, 2012 at 4:59 pm

Why wait for fifty years? The cold war is already won by Reagan. His intellectual inferiors may want to reject his victory, but intellignet people do not.

It is completely acceptable for former opponents of Reagan to come on board, and admit their misjudgements. However, the haters that are still out there need to reflect in front of their own mirrors.

What am I missing? Just build the Monument!


Posted by Barney, a resident of Portola Valley
on May 21, 2012 at 5:11 pm

Jerry:

How many illegals did he amnesty?

How many times did he raise taxes?

How much did he raise the national debt?

Who wrote the classic (and very good) line for him: "tear down this wall"? (hint - he lives around here)

Why not put him up on Rushmore?

How many felons worked for him, or got felonies because of what they did for him? (this will take awhile!)

How many avoided conviction because of pardons before trial?

How many weapons did Reagan trade for hostages, drugs and Contra money?

How many billions of taxpayer money was spent on the S&L crisis prompted by Reagan's eliminations of rules and regulation (hint - see: 'Keating Five' to start)

How many years did Michael Deaver, Reagan's Chief of Staff, get and how much of a fine for being convicted for lying to a congressional subcommittee?

10 questions. Answer them, and I'll consider supporting your quest, if you also quit insulting folks who have facts counter to your opinion.

Unless you're afraid to do so...


Posted by Barney, a resident of Portola Valley
on May 21, 2012 at 5:28 pm

Okay, Jerry, I'll give ya one:

The presidency of Ronald Reagan was marked by multiple scandals, resulting in the investigation, indictment, or conviction of over 138 administration officials, the largest number for any US president.

But as Jer says "He had a big heart."

How big of a heart?

"A few months ago I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not."

That IS a BIG heart! But up here is PV, we call that a lie.

1 down with the freebie, 9 questions to go, Jerry.




Posted by Jerry, a resident of Midtown
on May 21, 2012 at 5:29 pm

Barney,

Reagan won the cold war. Can you grasp this fact? Hint: Washington beat the Brits and established America; Lincoln won the civil war.

Trivial questions are of no importance, even if Peter Robinson wrote the "tear down this wall" line. Reagan was the guy who insisted on it, despite the many attempts to take it out of his speech. Reagan built up the military ("peace through strength"), confronted the Soviet Union directly and indirectly, despite the many unintelligent critics. Reagan got it. And he did it.

The time for the monument is now.


Posted by Barney, a resident of Portola Valley
on May 21, 2012 at 5:39 pm

Good job, Jerry, Mr Robinson is correct! (a good guy, fwiw...) Nice post, too, almost no insults (that must have been difficult, next time, try not to call folks who are smarter than you "unintelligent".)

8 more to go.

How is this trivial?

- "My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not." ie... I LIED!

How is this trivial?

- Ronald Reagan was marked by multiple huge scandals, the largest number for any US president.

8 more, you can do it, Jerry!


Posted by Jerry, a resident of Midtown
on May 21, 2012 at 5:48 pm

Barney,

If you want to avoid triviality, then stop picking fleas off your top hunting hound. Every president has fleas. Reagan won the cold war. Get serious.

BTW, yes Peter Robinson is a good guy.


Posted by Barney, a resident of Portola Valley
on May 21, 2012 at 6:11 pm

Criminality is trivial?

A president who LIES to Americans is trivial?

Tripling the debt is trivial?

Amnestying all those illegals is trivial?

Raising taxes on working Americans is trivial?

Trading weapons to Iran is trivial?

8 questions to go, Jerry, you can do it!!

If working on the fall of the USSR to happen on George Bush's watch is worth a statue, then we can put it next to Obama's statue, for getting Bin Ladin. We borrowed trillions so we could spent trillions on that one too.









Posted by Jerry, a resident of Midtown
on May 21, 2012 at 6:48 pm

"Criminality is trivial?

A president who LIES to Americans is trivial?"

Barney, are you talking about Clinton, who got impeached for purjury?

Come on, Barney, get real, Reagan won the cold war. He did not die in the arms of his adulturous lover, like FDR; he did not share his lovers with his brother, like JFK. I call such things "fleas"...

FDR multiplied the national debt to win WWII.

Reagan won WWIII (the cold war). Then he provided a signficant growth of the naitonal economy, at the same time. Political genius.

If his critics want to hammer him, then bring on something serious. History has already passed them by. A rather sad group, to the extent that they still want to whine about him. Reagan did not hate his haters, he always held out hope that they could be reconstructed to the truth of freedom over slavery.

Build the monument. Make it a big one.


Posted by Barney, a resident of Portola Valley
on May 21, 2012 at 6:56 pm

8 more questions, jerry. Don't be a hater. 8 more and then I support you putting a statue next to Obama's honoring him for killing Bin Ladin.

re: "truth of freedom over slavery"

Reagan: "They remind us that where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, Freedom is Lost."

Socialist.




Posted by Jerry, a resident of Midtown
on May 21, 2012 at 7:10 pm

"They remind us that where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, Freedom is Lost."

Barney, you like to think that you are chasing fleas, and that it matters. Care to tell us the context of that statement by Reagan...if you have a clue? I know the answer, but I am smart. Are you?

Oh, and when will you stop chasing fleas, and start chasing substance? Time to start to get real, Barney, even if you are no longer invited to soires in Portola Valley.


Posted by VoxPop, a resident of Old Palo Alto
on May 21, 2012 at 7:30 pm

A monument to Ronnie; it is to laugh. The Soviet Union collapsed of its own internal problems, had nothing to do with RR's grandstanding. As other posters have pointed out, he was a common criminal and perhaps should have been hauled into court on Iran/Contra alone...that was perilously close to treason. His colleagues were no better and probably worse. Think Ollie North, a disgrace to his uniform, for one, and the count goes on and on.

Jerry, those aren't fleas, those are vultures.

If they tried to chisel his face into Rushmore, the rock would split in shame.

You'd do well to pick another hero, a real one.


Posted by Jerry really is..., a resident of Midtown
on May 21, 2012 at 7:38 pm

Have most of the readers figured out that "Jerry" is actually Gary, the former leftist from downtown north. You can change your name, but your writing style status the same


Posted by Barney, a resident of Portola Valley
on May 21, 2012 at 7:41 pm

"I am smart. Are you?" Not a question I've heard from genuinely intelligent folk. From wannabes, of course, but not from those who matter.

"you are no longer invited to soires in Portola Valley."

I give'em, sweetheart. Ask around.

8 more questions. Clock is ticking.


Posted by No monument for Reagan, a resident of Barron Park
on May 21, 2012 at 9:55 pm

A monument to Reagan ?? Crazy idea. He does not deserve one. He started this country on the "voodoo economics" (aka trickle down) path which has led the US down to its present terrible state.

No monument for Reagan.


Posted by Gary da old socialist, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on May 21, 2012 at 10:25 pm

Gary? Dat you? I think he's correct, totally Gary, unable to respond to facts. Always repeating the same stuff over and over.

Ya silly old lefty!

Ten people post against it, but Gary/Jerry is for it.

Typical.


Posted by Jerry, a resident of Midtown
on May 22, 2012 at 1:39 pm

I was never a socialist. I am not "Gary".

Just allow the big monument to Reagan to gain a site on the DC Mall. The people will do the rest.

This is a perfect chance for some compromise in DC. Boxer can propose it in the Senate; Eshoo in the House. No taxpayer money. A plaque on the the side of the monument can include: "Originally proposed by Sen. Barbara Boxer and Rep. Anna Eshoo". This should be a no-brainer for both of them, especially since they claim that they want compromise.



Posted by fdr first, a resident of Stanford
on May 22, 2012 at 1:50 pm

"I was never a socialist. I am not "Gary"."
Of course you are not. Same writing style. Same comments

"Just allow the big monument to Reagan to gain a site on the DC Mall. The people will do the rest."
Raise the money. Put together a plan and come before congress with it. Do not waste time posting on this forum if it mean so much for you to have a monument for a hater and adulterer.

"This is a perfect chance for some compromise in DC. Boxer can propose it in the Senate; Eshoo in the House. No taxpayer money. A plaque on the the side of the monument can include: "Originally proposed by Sen. Barbara Boxer and Rep. Anna Eshoo". This should be a no-brainer for both of them, especially since they claim that they want compromise."
Where have we heard this before?? oh yeah a few postings ago from "jerry".
Why would Boxer and Eshoo propose something that is going to be paid for by private money. Plus no republican will go along with it for two reasons--Reagen was a RINO and Boxer/Eshoo are democrats.

Time to move on, "jerry".


Posted by Jerry, a resident of Midtown
on May 22, 2012 at 2:19 pm

"Why would Boxer and Eshoo propose something that is going to be paid for by private money"

Because it will not add to the national debt, and it would be a sign of goodwill. If the southern states had some leadership, after the Civil War, that suggested a contribution to the Lincoln Memorial, instead of hating on Lincoln, things woud have gone more smoothly. Boxer and Eshoo have a leadership opportunity to overcome the hatred towards Reagan, expressed by some on this thread. Are they big enough to lead?


Posted by fdr first, a resident of Stanford
on May 22, 2012 at 2:30 pm

"Are they big enough to lead?"
They are proven leaders. They are bigger and better than Reagen ever was. Wait we should build a monument to Boxer and Eshoo.

How is the fundraising going, "jerry"? Come back when you have money and a plan. All you have no is a mouth running away with itself


Posted by Jerry, a resident of Midtown
on May 22, 2012 at 2:49 pm

"They are proven leaders. They are bigger and better than Reagen ever was"

I didn't notice that they won the cold war.

Boxer and Eshoo can show their leadership by rejecting the hatreds that come from their own side.

This one is a no-brainer! Just reject the haters.

Allow a site on the DC Mall for the big monument...the money will flood in from the people.


Posted by Lawrence, a resident of Midtown
on May 22, 2012 at 3:33 pm

Jerry/Gary:

Barney asked for 8 answers - where are they?

I agree with the need for a statue - to the man that got bin Ladin.

Ronnie Raygun can have one too - buy the land and build it. Show us how the Free Market works.

Here's the inscription

"Ronald Reagan was marked by multiple scandals, resulting in the investigation, indictment, or conviction of over 138 administration officials, the largest number for any US president."


Posted by Jerry, a resident of Midtown
on May 22, 2012 at 6:46 pm

I think it is time for the haters to stop hating.

Reagan won the cold war, brought back America, provided a major economic recovery. He was also a nice guy. He did not hate you haters.

Build his big monument, he deserves it.


Posted by Lawrence, a resident of Midtown
on May 22, 2012 at 7:00 pm

Jerry/Gary: Can't speak for others, but I'm not "hating", in fact I offered a great solution - Free Market devotees who want to buy the land and put up a statue should do so.

Since Ronnie was such a big Free Market guy, he'd understand. He would also understand we can't afford it, as Ronnie tripled the national debt on his watch.

We should have a Clinton statue - the only President to balance a budget - and he did it twice, leaving Bush a surplus just 12 years ago.

When you buy the land, please feel free to use this inscription-

"Ronald Reagan was marked by multiple scandals, resulting in the investigation, indictment, or conviction of over 138 administration officials, the largest number for any US president."


Posted by Jerry, a resident of Midtown
on May 22, 2012 at 7:35 pm

Land on the DC Mall is not for sale. It needs to be released for monuments, by the Congress.

Once it it released, the big monument for Reagan will be built, no problem. Of course, the haters need to get out of the way.


Posted by Gary da old socialist, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on May 22, 2012 at 7:45 pm

Gary, go back to asking fb questions


Posted by Perspective, a resident of Greater Miranda
on May 26, 2012 at 6:44 am

Hee hee: I am sure that when the Reagan statue goes up, there will be another one of Obama being "linked" to Reagan somehow. Web Link

Going back and "linking" current Obama goals and "achievements" to virtually every other prior President on the .gov site is really, really creepy, reminding me far too much of the type of propoganda the Russians and Chinese have been subject to for the last century.

Wake up, y'all. Connect some dots. This, by itself, is not tooooo bad, but connect it to the pattern of propoganda over the last 3.5 years, including the latest one of trying to somehow not own any part of the trillion added in debt the first half of 2009 by Obama/Dems, and we have a very creepy situation in the Dem party.


Posted by Lawrence, a resident of Midtown
on May 26, 2012 at 10:16 am

" Did you know?
* President Reagan designated Martin Luther King Jr. Day a national holiday; today the Obama Administration honors this tradition, with the First and Second Families participating in service projects on this day.
* In a June 28, 1985 speech Reagan called for a fairer tax code, one where a multi-millionaire did not have a lower tax rate than his secretary. Today, President Obama is calling for the same with the Buffett Rule."

Perspective, did you know....

"Ronald Reagan was marked by multiple scandals, resulting in the investigation, indictment, or conviction of over 138 administration officials, the largest number for any US president."

This is insane. We're talking about two things - the Reagan presidency that is one giant criminal conspiracy and Perspective rants about factoids containing, HORRORS!, actual facts.

Your last rant (something about the 2009 budget?) I have no clue what you are babbling on about.


Posted by Jerry, a resident of Midtown
on May 26, 2012 at 11:00 am

"the Reagan presidency that is one giant criminal conspiracy"

Nonsense, of course. FDR packed the Supreme Court, trying to override the Consitution. He violated the Neutrality Act. He had an adulturous affair, while in office. He imprisioned Japanese Americans. Thurgood Marshall hated him, becasue he was a racist. He also won WWII, and a monument gets built for him in DC.

Reagan won the Cold War. Time for the monument.

It is rather amusing to watch the haters be coonsumed by their own hate of Reagan. He just smiles at them.


Posted by Lawrence, a resident of Midtown
on May 26, 2012 at 11:38 am

"the Reagan presidency that is one giant criminal conspiracy"

Yup.

"Ronald Reagan was marked by multiple scandals, resulting in the investigation, indictment, or conviction of over 138 administration officials, the largest number for any US president."


How does Jerry/Gary address this? He can't. So he makes noise about FDR. Apples and oranges.

Jerry/Gary: how many indictments did FDR's officials rack up in 4 terms?

Reagan's team of criminals chalked up 138 indictments in two terms.

Reagan was a free market guy, honor him by buying some land on the free market and build your statue. Set up a lemonade stand. I'll come by and contribute.


Posted by Jerry, a resident of Midtown
on May 26, 2012 at 11:51 am

"honor him by buying some land on the free market and build your statue"

Doesn't work that way. For DC Mall real estate, it needs to be released by Congress. Then the people will take over, and provide the funds for the Reagan Monument. Perhaps you can expiate your hate by sending in a donation?


Posted by Lawrence, a resident of Midtown
on May 26, 2012 at 1:06 pm

You keep spewing the term 'hate', while others point out facts. Facts like "Ronald Reagan was marked by multiple scandals, resulting in the investigation, indictment, or conviction of over 138 administration officials, the largest number for any US president."

You've posted many times about the mall. We get it. Few support honoring the president with the MOST criminal scandals in history on the mall. A man who raised taxes 7 times, including the largest, most regressive middle class tax hike in history. A man who traded weapons to Iran, laundered drug money for terrorists, etc..

So buy some land and put up a statue.

That's the free market way. Ol' Ronnie would've preferred that, rather than relying on Big Government for land and the cost of maintenance.

Unless you are implying Reagan was a socialist.


Posted by Anon., a resident of Crescent Park
on May 26, 2012 at 1:13 pm

The only structure Ronald Reagan needs today is reinforcing bars to keep him for rolling over in his grave over the false claims and bad ideas done in his name and memory.


Posted by Jerry, a resident of Midtown
on May 26, 2012 at 2:17 pm

The Reagan haters are out in force. Hate is as hate does.

Trivial issues like presidential scandals, did not prevent Clinton from dedicating the FDR memorial. Both Clinton and FDR had scandals in ther terms (remember, Clinton was impeached, and he raped a woman; FDR was an adulturer and law breaker). Clinton does not deserve a monument, because he did not win anything. However, FDR won WWII and RR won the Cold War. They both deserve memorial monuments. FDR now has his. It is time for RR to have his, despite his haters (FDR had his haters, too).


Posted by Lawrence, a resident of Midtown
on May 26, 2012 at 2:37 pm

Haters? Gary/jerry is the one spewing hate speech.

"Clinton... raped a woman"

Accusations of rape have only occurred to two presidents. The other? RWR (Selene Walter). Neither alleged event, a felony, ever resulted in a trial, so to bring them up shows the depths of Gary/Jerry's depravity. Both slanders are only found on fringe websites such as free republic. Neither merit discussion unless a poster is purposefully throwing mud around because he HAS NOTHING ELSE, ie.. Jerry/Gary.

Yet again, Jerry/Gary can't make a case for the criminal enterprise that was the Reagan presidency: "Ronald Reagan was marked by multiple scandals, resulting in the investigation, indictment, or conviction of over 138 administration officials, the largest number for any US president."

Go buy some land, build your statue and honor the free market.

Stop the hate speech, Jerry/Gary.


Posted by VoxPop, a resident of Old Palo Alto
on May 26, 2012 at 5:03 pm

Seems no one has figured out that Jerry? is a useless troll who gets its jollies provoking people.

Folks, don't feed the troll and it will go back under its bridge, to pout and plot and strike again another day.


Posted by Jerry, a resident of Midtown
on May 27, 2012 at 2:11 pm

I was up in Yosemite last year, and took the tram tour. When we got a good look at El Capitan, some woman said that it should be renamed Mount Reagan, because it is imposing, powerfual, decisive and kinda looks like Reagan, in abstract. I started to clap, and I was joined by about 2/3 of the visitors on the tram.

This is a good place to start! Mt. Reagan in Yosemite.


Posted by Lawrence, a resident of Midtown
on May 27, 2012 at 2:43 pm

Jerry/gary: He's a free market guy, honor Ronnie by buying private land.

Though, honestly, you have my vote to rename a local site for Ronnie:

- San Quentin.

"Ronald Reagan was marked by multiple scandals, resulting in the investigation, indictment, or conviction of over 138 administration officials, the largest number for any US president."


Posted by Anon., a resident of Crescent Park
on May 27, 2012 at 7:00 pm

> This is a good place to start! Mt. Reagan in Yosemite.


LOL, Now that's just plain trolling to make people mad. It give me the giggles that someone would go to such trouble here and in the splendor of Yosemite to annoy their fellow citizens with boorish behavior for the fun of it.


Posted by Jerry, a resident of Midtown
on May 27, 2012 at 7:09 pm

"to make people mad"

No! Look at Mt. Reagan in yosemite Valley. It is an angular, abstract version of the Great Liberator!

This should make people happy, not mad, if they love freedom.


Posted by VoxPop, a resident of Old Palo Alto
on May 27, 2012 at 9:35 pm

He, she, it is still trolling. Don't feed it.


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