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Why bring the high speed rail onto the pennisula?

Original post made by Andrew Fuller, Midtown, on Mar 16, 2012

I am old enough to remember when the politicians sold the bay area voters the BART system that was to ring the bay area and serve all the citys and towns.
Well that hasn't happened, now these people want to spend a galzillan dallors to connect L.A. and S.F.
Instead of wasting this money adding tracks to the pennisula how about having the high speed rail go from livermore to L.A. and use BART as the connection for San Jose and San Francisco, and if there is any money left over extend BART all the way around bay area, get rid of CALTRANS and the VTA authorities and all the other overlaping services. I bet someone in L.A. has a better idea where to build their terminal for high speed rail too.

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Posted by Martin Engel
a resident of Menlo Park
on Mar 17, 2012 at 2:37 pm

I have an even better idea, Andrew. Slay this dragon that threatens the lives and well-being of so many Californians up an down the state. Where is St. George, now that we need him?

High-speed rail in California? Can't afford it. Don't need it. The project is a scam and a fraud. The voters were lied to in 2008. And now, what's worse, the rail authority is changing the game and its rules afte the game has started. If that isn't illegal, what is?

Now, about the Caltrain corridor. Gross mismanagement is not a good place to start by giving them more money for any purpose. We need public mass transit commuter rail on the Peninsula. We need it all around the Bay. It's not a local problem, it's a Bay Area problem. We need a single management structure that oversees the entire "ring of steel" circumnavigating the Bay. We need it to be managed outside of local politics. We don't need mindless Empire building by over-paid bureaucrats.

What we don't need is high-speed rail on the Peninsula or in California!


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Posted by PA Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Mar 18, 2012 at 9:21 am

Andrew, your history of BART needs amending. BART was voted on by County in the early 1960s, therefore, it was only built in counties that approved the required tax.

At that time Santo Clara and Marin voters rejected the tax; SF, Alameda and East Bay counties where BART has been built approved it. However, more recently Santa Clara voters approved a tax to extend BART to San Jose only but not up the Peninsula, that will take more money and another vote in Santa Clara County.

Meanwhile, voters throughout the State of California approved Billions to build HSR, that's why HSR is being built up the Peninsula. Voter in San Francisco County voted to have HSR go to San Francisco NOT Livermore!!!

I'm so glad I voted "NO" on HSR. We were asked to vote $33 Billion I thought that was way tooo much but obviously voters throughout the State didn't share by views. Was it a scam - NO - voters just didn't think $33 Billion was too much!!!


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Posted by Two cents
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Mar 18, 2012 at 5:32 pm

I agree with PAResident. HSR is a luxury that this City cannot afford. If funding wasn't an issue than of course we would all like to have as many transportation options as possible but that's not the case.


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