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Facebook threatening to abandon Menlo Park campus?

Original post made by bluffing? on Mar 15, 2012

A report in this morning's SF Business Times says Facebook is threatening to abandon at least part of their Menlo Park campus plans and build new offices in the east bay instead: Web Link

Is Facebook just bluffing and trying to get more concessions from Menlo Park? So glad we kicked them out of Palo Alto so we don't have to play these games with them.

Comments (17)

Posted by Morris Brown, a resident of Menlo Park
on Mar 15, 2012 at 8:18 pm

What a transperent threat to balckmail Menlo Park to bend to Facebook's demands. The best outcome that Menlo Park could hope for would be to see Facebook do what they threaten.

With Tim Tosta using such threats, maybe the City should jsut walk away completely.

Posted by Hmmm, a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 15, 2012 at 9:43 pm

Good economic neighbor for EPA? Once again, how do they benefit us? Trickle down money from shopping at Mi Pueblo? Jobs? If so, how many?

Ha, good luck, FB, with trying to do the green thing w/transpo to the east bay?


Posted by Ada, a resident of Midtown
on Mar 15, 2012 at 9:51 pm

So miopic for city management to discourage profitable companies like Facebook to expand in their cities. Don't they realize that they will lose in tax revenues and overall prestige? Cupertino is much smarter with Apple.

Posted by Hmmm, a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 15, 2012 at 10:11 pm

Uh, Cupertino has also put up w/a lot of garbage & threats from Apple. I'm not saying MP government is the best (far from it), but FB is also being heavy-handed & overall, arrogant. Sure, right now they can afford to be. I remember when Yahoo was, when Excite was, when Cisco was...

If they want MP AND EPA to think of them as good for the area, then they need to behave as if they *are*.

Posted by benefit, a resident of Crescent Park
on Mar 15, 2012 at 10:35 pm

Arrogant little twits. I'm not sure what they think they bring to the community...traffic? Facebook provides employees all their worldly needs, so it's not as if the workers are going to be wandering off campus for food or dry cleaning. The only benefit to Menlo Park is a modest increase in property tax; neighboring cities get nothing.

Go on, Facebook, see if you can transform Newark into the Next UberCool Place. You're Facebook, you can do it!

Posted by Anon., a resident of Crescent Park
on Mar 16, 2012 at 12:53 am

I contracted in some of those buildings when they belonged to Sun, and most of them are old and not well situated. It's not a very prestigious location, and the neighborhood is a bad one. One night driving home though EPA I had to drive through a police barricade where I saw my first drive by shooting fatality about 2002 or so.

I really have much less respect for these companies that nickel and dime their localities to death, particularly when they are so rich. Mountain View really benefited from high-tech and seemed to be able to make the most of it, but the newer high-tech seems to have less community spirit.

They could have bought the Sun campus in Newark pretty cheap I imagine at one time, but it is windy out there, and $5 a pop just to drive there and back now.

They should have stuck with Palo Alto, now they are dinged their brand a little, and not that many really like them much now they realize what they are up.

Posted by Walter_E_Wallis, a resident of Midtown
on Mar 16, 2012 at 7:24 am

Walter_E_Wallis is a registered user.

If Facebook were really smart, they would advertize "everyone here walks to work." then establish a whole bunch of satellite offices, electronically connected, located wherever a cluster of their employers live. An electronic edifice!

Posted by Staying for now, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Mar 16, 2012 at 1:34 pm

I guess Zuckerberg meant it when it was reported he'd wished he's never left Boston!!!

On a serious note it's getting hugely competitive to hire the kind of talent Silicon Valley needs to stay ahead in the high tech world. Moving away from here might be a pretty smart move.

Posted by Anon., a resident of Crescent Park
on Mar 16, 2012 at 2:09 pm

> I guess Zuckerberg meant it when it was reported he'd wished he's never left Boston!!!

And all this time I thought Zuckerberg spoke English as his first language. ;-)

I don't know what this guy does most days, but spending my 20's with the weight of a company like Facebook on my back does not seem like a very good way to spend one's life but then there is that billion dollars but all that billion cannot buy back the best years of his life. I hope he is spending them wisely, and most of all can think for himself.

Putting a 20 year old in charge of what is a very strategic company is very interesting, and one has got to wonder what is really behind Facebook, who gets to look at all that data and what they are doing with it Google too for that matter.

Posted by Anon., a resident of Crescent Park
on Mar 16, 2012 at 2:11 pm

Oh, before someone jumps on me to nitpick, Zuckerberg is currently and old man of 27.

Posted by neighbor, a resident of another community
on Mar 16, 2012 at 5:52 pm

Redwood City would be happy to welcome Facebook. We won't hassle you. We'll take your money.

Posted by Aquamarine, a resident of Stanford
on Mar 16, 2012 at 8:38 pm

Oh, many of us would be happy if Marky Mark hadn't left Boston, too.

Posted by Facebook Employee, a resident of another community
on Mar 17, 2012 at 2:48 pm

[Post removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]

Posted by Anonymous, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Mar 17, 2012 at 9:19 pm

Facebook is realizing that buying Sun Quentin wasn't such a good idea. Newark sounds about as good as it allows Facebook to shed a fair percentage of its current employees.

Posted by Anon., a resident of Crescent Park
on Mar 19, 2012 at 3:27 am

Well, I am sure curious about what "Facebook Employee" posted on Mar 17, 2012 at 2:48 pm that was removed by Palo Alto Online staff ??? Inquiring minds want to know! Or was it just a troll?

Posted by Mom, a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Mar 19, 2012 at 12:34 pm

I can just imagine the real estate agents losing sleep over this news!

Posted by JO, a resident of College Terrace
on Mar 19, 2012 at 2:05 pm

Regarding the amount of revenue Facebook contributes to the city it is located in, I read in another newspaper that one of the "mitigations" that Menlo Park is requesting is money to compensate for the loss of sales tax revenues that it will lose compared to what Sun Microsystems brought in. To me, that verifies what I suspected when Facebook was in Palo Alto: that Facebook provides limited direct benefits to the City because it doesn't generate a lot of sales tax.

Also, because Facebook provides so many on-site services to its employees (meals, dry-cleaning, etc.) its employees don't tend to use local businesses for these services regularly. And Facebook won't necessarily contract with local City businesses to provide those on-site services. I remember seeing vendor vans with Redwood City or San Jose addresses painted on them when Facebook was here in the Stanford Research Park. I don't recall ever seeing a Palo Alto address on a vendor van or truck entering or leaving Facebook.

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