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on Oct 23, 2011
She should be charged and prosecuted for filing a false police report - this sort of behavior should not be excused.
Thank goodness nobody was harmed in the prosecution of this lie. This is how the Salem Witch trials began..hysterical young teen girls telling a lie that got out of control.
Thankfully, she 'fessed up before anyone got hurt. Good girl...now, don't lie again!
Right on, Alph - prosecute a minor since SC County is just *swimming* in money & jail space. She got caught in a lie, admitted it, so let's move on. There's no Salem here.
I disagree Hmmmm, a message needs to be sent here, to her and to others, that filing a false report like this is unacceptable. She needs to know that much harm could have been done. But it also must be recognized, and appreciated, that no one was harmed other than the man-ours devoted to this that could/should haave been devoted elsewhere. The tiger should growl at her, and twitch its tail, but anything beyond that would probably be counter-productive this time around. But she should defintely at least see the teeth.
It would also be interesting to know why she felt it necessary to tell this fib in the first place.
Sir,she would dare not to next time,she is just a little monkey.
Mediocre minds would come up with being more draconian and charging this person, putting them in jail, or ruining them, hurting - someone who did this one time and might have some personal problems - in order to send a message to imagined receivers of such messages out there just looking for a reason to lie about being sexually assaulted but not scared enough not to do it. That idea is as absurd as anyone who would think like that.
An out of proportion response might be very hurtful in the sense that the next time someone would not be willing to admit they were lying and send someone innocent to jail to avoid ruination and shame - it's happened.
This is a minor incident in which no harm was apparently done to be compared with the financial crisis on a national and international basis which is so big we do not know where to start but has people who are driving our world into misery and pain yet no one has been used to send a message and no one has been taken to task for a monumental cancer in our society that has done really large-scale damage.
It seems our idea of justice is applied on a whim without a sense of proportion.
I think harm was done at a community level. The next time a real victim comes forward to report a crime, there is going to be one more layer of mistrust and disbelief by the police and the community. Watch and see - I bet the next time a sexual assault news story is posted, there will be comments doubting the victim. Also, this story alarmed local residents and probably put unnecessary fear into regular visitors to that park. I believe some community service would be a fitting punishment for this crime. In this case, it could teach someone not to abuse their community as a backdrop for acting out their personal problems.
Anon, if you are referring to me, I certainly do not see meting out harsh punishment to this girl over this. There should be no criminal record generated, no real punishment, no further problems created. She and her friends just need to know that this sort of thing is dangerous and expensive, and repeat performances would not be viewed as lightly.
If it would be a good idea to assign some light community service, I would think helping at the SPCA or something would be good. If one is truly repentant, and she probably is, offering a way to attone might be a good idea, for her sake.
"Right on, Alph - prosecute a minor since SC County is just *swimming* in money & jail space."
I did not say anything about putting her in jail - just if you file a false police report and waste Police resources you should feel some pain. Being charged and having to appear before a Judge will influence her future behavior and probably will cause others to think before they lie about stuff like this.
>> just if you file a false police report and waste Police resources you should feel some pain.
I would just amend that to:
If you file a false police report and waste SIGNIFICANT Police resources MALICIOUSLY you should feel some pain.
At the very least the young womans name should be published.
So that all male teachers, coaches, neighbors, ministers, students etc can stay very far away from her for their own protection.
The young woman is a danger to others
--if she made such an elaborate false sexual assault report once then she will predictably do so again.
>> The next time a real victim comes forward to report a crime,
>> there is going to be one more layer of mistrust and disbelief
>> by the police and the community.
Well, there always is, and there probably always will be, and if what I read in the media is any indication there is still trauma for women in the court system, but you cannot change human behavior by trying to make examples of people unfairly ... or even fairly.
Unless there is real damage it just makes sense to let a first timer off lightly and see if she learns. In my opinion - assuming she is a first time offender. Now ... back to the Wall St. thugs ... what about them?
Sharon should know that the law well enough to know that a *minor's* name is withheld.
She'll do it again? Please, show us some stats for that.
Anyone ever notice how much Sharon looooves to cater to the poor, pitiful, innocent men who need to be saved from all of the conniving, evil women out there? You know, men like Mark Hurd.
Obviously the school and some neighbors know the identity and she will probably have to move to another school.
Everyone should know her identity for their own protection.
False accusations of sexual attacks can destroy innocent peoples lives and wast $ Million in police resources.
If she had not been found out as a perjurer she could have send 2 innocent Hispanics to prison based upon her lies--
She should pay a price and the community where she lives should be protected by knowing her identity
Again, show us the stats to back up your claims, Sharon.
The women lied--and put many Hispanic men lives at risk--the MVPD are serious--innocent people could have been killed
She should be identified and put on a public register
--Falsely claiming that that 2 Hispanics tried to rape her
is a very big deal
There should be very serious consequences for false police reports
Sharon, yes, the woman lied. She is also 16. At that age, many of us did stupid things. In America we (theoretically) do not punish people for things they might do, or for consequences that never happened. (There are exceptions, but those should not apply in this case.)
I think it is far better to gently correct the mistake and forgive it, on the understanding that it will not happen again.
Lord, if I got punished severely for every stupid mistake I made my life would have been terrible. Many stupid mistakes went un-noticed, others went un-punished, I learned from them and resolved to never make them again. I also resolved to forgive others who are going through the same learning-curve I went through.
Sharon's once again obsessed with something she has no impact on. If you feel so strongly, Sharon, take your views to the DA's. office. None of us have an impact on any consequences for this young lady.
I believe that young people tend to judge others more harshly than older people, as a general trend. They tend to be a little more idealistic, think more in terms of black/white, and have not made enough of their own mistakes in life to have learned forgiveness of themselves and others. They also tend to like more simplistic answers to problems.
I happen to be a bit opposed to the "Kill 'em all and let God sort it out" solution.
"None of us have an impact on any consequences for this young lady."
Maybe not, maybe so. How do you think she would feel reading this thread? Would it have an impact? Would that impact be positive or negative? I suspect that what we say here has the potential to impact her, if she is aware of it.
If that is the case, then it is fitting and proper to express out love and support while asking for correction, and that is all.
What this girl did was awful, she needs to suffer some consequences of some sort. She has alarmed the community and could have had men or boys arrested and put through a terrible ordeal.
A message needs to be sent out that false rape reporting is a very serious thing.
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