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9/11 Power to the Truthful

Original post made by Carol Brouillet, Barron Park, on Aug 23, 2011

Not too long ago, I went to Berkeley to watch John Pilger's 'banned' film 'The War You Don't See,' a damning look at the media's coverage of wars and how the media, particularly the major television networks, sold the wars to the American and the British public. In the film television journalists, stenographers of the powerful, admitted that they had engaged in 'war crimes' by conveying uncritically false information to the public to gain public acceptance and support for wars.

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Posted by Nancy
a resident of Midtown
on Aug 23, 2011 at 6:14 pm

Carol,

You have many conspiratorial thoughts and feelings. Among them is that the U.S. government blew up the 9/11 buildings. Has anybody ever told you that your are crazy? Perhaps some counseling?


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Posted by Svatoid
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Aug 23, 2011 at 7:00 pm

Carol. Give it a ready and show some respect and compassion for those that were murdered on 9/11. You and your tinfoil headgear crowd do not need to involve the public in your fantasies.


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Posted by Nancy
a resident of Midtown
on Aug 23, 2011 at 7:14 pm

Svatoid,

Thank you for your response. I should have thought about how disrespectful Carol is being to the families of the murdered victims. She needs help, but I have no respect for her.


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Posted by Carol Brouillet
a resident of Barron Park
on Aug 23, 2011 at 7:47 pm

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Several family members will be speaking at the 9/11 Reclaiming the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future event, including Michele Little, sister of slain firefighter David Weiss, who also founded the organization Unite in Peace, as well as Bob MacIlvane and Lorie Van Auken who both appeared in the documentary 9/11 Press for Truth and have clearly stated that the official commission failed to answer most of their questions and was basically a cover-up commission. We will also be showing a clip featuring first responders entitled "We Were Also Killed on 9/11" which is a very eloquent statement from one of the men who is suffering from his own exposure to the toxic dust at Ground Zero that the EPA said was "Safe to Breathe." With so many first responders sick, dead, or dying from their exposure to the dust, who are also being denied health benefits, I think it is important to hear their voices, although there will be so many public officials at Ground Zero in New York this September that they have been officially banned from the ceremonies. They have some rather harsh words to say about the role the US government played in 9/11.


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Posted by qq
a resident of Barron Park
on Aug 23, 2011 at 7:52 pm

Carol,

Is there some reason your Podcast is not available in the US iTunes store?

Web Link

qq


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Posted by Outside Observer
a resident of another community
on Aug 23, 2011 at 8:07 pm

If you replace the word "War" with "Liberal" in this posting you would end up with the same thing.

Bottom line, both ends of the political spectrum use the same methods.

And both ends should be held accountable.


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Posted by Nancy
a resident of Midtown
on Aug 23, 2011 at 8:24 pm

Carol is to 9/11 as Oliver Stone is to JFK.

The facts don't matter, just their delusional dreams of power. They will use innocent, but misinformed, people to buttress their case. It is sad.

Both Carol and Oliver need serious help.

Ignore them.


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Posted by Hire an engineer
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Aug 23, 2011 at 8:32 pm

Carol

You apparently have a lot of money and time to waste. Hire a structural engineer to explain to you how those buildings fell. Need the name of a good firm, I was supply you with some.


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Posted by Svatoid
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Aug 23, 2011 at 9:02 pm

Carol is shamefully exploiting 9/11 for her own personal gain. I would have thought on the 10th anniversary she would show some respect for the victims. Apparently not. Shame on carol.


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Posted by carol brouillet
a resident of Barron Park
on Aug 23, 2011 at 9:14 pm

We will be premiering the film 9/11 Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out produced by Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth which is filled with interviews of structural engineers, architects, scientists who convincingly challenge the fraud perpetuated by the NIST Report that fire could bring down a 47 story steel framed building, not struck by a plane (WTC 7) in the manner of a controlled demolition at free fall speed. See the trailer and then try to convince me that all the experts that I've spoken to who have researched this are wrong.


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Posted by Hire an engineer
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Aug 23, 2011 at 9:23 pm

I'll point you at ones that actually build ski scappers for a living. People that are not out selling a conspiracy for a living.


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Posted by Hire an engineer
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Aug 23, 2011 at 9:32 pm

btw, you need structural engineer. Architects and scientists do not have the background to understand building failure analysis. Find some people that have no skin in the game.


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Posted by Nancy
a resident of Midtown
on Aug 23, 2011 at 9:53 pm

Remember when Oliver Stone insisted that a bullet needed to take two 90 degree turns in mid air ("JFK")? Turns out that he didn't do his homework. The front seat (Connally) was offset inboard. Stone simply looked at the rebuilt version of the limo, in the Ford Museum (Dearborn)...where the front and back seats were aligned. All it took was a straight shot. This is the kind of trash research that pretends to be fact in the world of the weird, of which Carol is a member.


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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Aug 24, 2011 at 3:07 am

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Someone needs a good dose of Ocam's.


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Posted by svatoid
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Aug 24, 2011 at 6:16 am

Carol, very few people care about your shameful attempts at self promotion made at the expense of the victims of 9/11. Look what happened when your an for congress a few years back.. You hate our government so much, you are actually no better than the terrorists that carried out 9/11


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Posted by svatoid
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Aug 24, 2011 at 7:59 am

Carol-in her self-promoting mode claims:
"which is filled with interviews of structural engineers, architects, scientists who convincingly challenge the fraud perpetuated by the NIST Report that fire could bring down a 47 story steel framed building, not struck by a plane (WTC 7) in the manner of a controlled demolition at free fall speed. "

Here you go, Carol. Read this and then show some compassion for the victims

Web Link
"But it wasn't the impact which the NIST said brought the building down. That's a conspiracy theorist straw man. They show an interview with a construction manager who said the buildings steel skin should have held up by redistributing the load. He's right. This is EXACTLY what the NIST said happened. It wasn't the impact alone which the NIST said brought down the towers. It was a combination of factors. The only way conspiracy theorists can attack the report is by separating these factors and attacking them individually."


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Posted by Carol Brouillet
a resident of Barron Park
on Aug 24, 2011 at 9:02 am

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There are some fraudulent claims on that link that you posted, implying the nonexistence of the core columns. Even NIST has had to admit that WTC 7 fell at Free Fall speed- which means no resistance and that could only have been achieved by controlled demolition- removing all resistance - that simply can't happen from fire.

The Trailer to the film 9/11 Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out is posted at Web Link.

I believe that those who fiercely defend the official explanation (and are paid to do so publicly) which defies the laws of physics do so because they are lying and should be prosecuted for their roles in covering up a huge crime. The crime of 9/11 has been used to launch wars, destroy our Bill of Rights, institutionalize torture. Look at the Popular Mechanics March 2005 issue which has some absurd claims, every name associated with that piece should be liable for prosecution, as well as those who authored the WTC 7 NIST Report.

I challenged John Rendon of the Rendon Group when he spoke at the Herbst about the reasons for the Iraq War and he said most of the soldiers believed the lies that he was paid to sell that war - including the unfounded claim that Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11. Tricking people, entire populations into going to war is a crime, the highest crime under International Law. Zelikow who oversaw the official 9/11 Report, omitting WTC 7, based upon tortured confessions, wrote the pre-emptive war doctrine.

I'm not a structural engineer, but I can see clearly who is lying and who is telling the truth about the fate of those buildings, especially when the event is used so blatantly to terrorize people into a war, and the construction of a police state. Being under surveillance, homeland security at every airport, does not make me feel safer. There has been a "revolution in military affairs" that does not bode well for non-combatants. Wars used to mean 90% of the victims were soldiers and 10% civilians. Now the vast majority of the people killed are just ordinary people, civilians and a small percentage are soldiers.

I am against imperial wars. I am against false flag operations and state sponsored terrorism. I do not get paid to voice my political beliefs, on the contrary there is zero remuneration, but I do have children and I do care about the future. I do not hate my country; I simply love people and do not want to see the world destroyed through the blind greed, and fear, of institutions that rely on war, deceptions, appropriations of resources for their power.


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Posted by svatoid
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Aug 24, 2011 at 9:35 am

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"I'm not a structural engineer, but I can see clearly who is lying and who is telling the truth about the fate of those buildings, "
Very funny, Carol. You do not know anything about engineering, yet you claim that certain experts are wrong and only those that go along with your narrow view are correct. Best of all you can tell who is lying and who is telling the truth!!!

"There are some fraudulent claims on that link that you posted,"
Any link that does not adhere to your conspiracy theories is deemed as fraudulent, especially Carol since you can see clearly who is lying!!!

There are plenty of other valid links from respected scientists and engineered that show how silly your theories are. No point in posting them--you will dismiss them as fraudulent anyway.

Clearly you have no respect or compassion for the victims of 9/11. This is all about you and your conspiracy theories, fueled by your hatred of America.
I bet you also support the activities of Hamas.

Shame on you, Carol Brouillet


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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Aug 24, 2011 at 12:40 pm

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Carol, Engineering News Record is widely respected among construction professionals. They followed the various reports carefully and completely. Even the structural engineer for the twin towers concurred with the majority report, that softening of the steel, facilitated by the substitute fire protection, led to the collapse.
The fire in building 7 was fed from emergency generator fuel storage tanks in the basement. This exceeded the 4 hour protection of the steel, at which time the collapse was free fall. If you propose an intricately wired set of explosives that could tolerate hours of fire then upon some secret signal all explode at once then the army could use you.


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Posted by bru
a resident of Crescent Park
on Aug 25, 2011 at 12:47 pm

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FIRST THING ... John Pilgar's film was not banned. In fact I even saw it on You-Tube and it is typical for his work, with which I much agree with - but a little weak.

SECOND THING ... Mumia Abu-Jamal was a cold-blooded murderer.

Conclusion, while I follow and agree with much in the so-called "left", this one tendency of lumping all of these things together so that you must somewhat implicitly give credence to the whole mess when all you are really interested in are the NON-LUNATIC pieces is not good for Liberals or Progressives - and in fact accomplishes the opposite of what the agenda of the left is, or should be.

Why do we have to lump everything together into a big mess and then try to sell it or demonize it wholesale in the media ... the effect of this particular process is to complete mock and destroy the whole idea of America, and what made us the hope for the world.

Boil down whatever it is you have to say about this and leave out all of the garbage please, there is plenty of stuff that we can all agree on and work to change if ugly distasteful or untruthful things are left out of it so rational people are not driven away.

America, land of the mentally messed-with.


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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Aug 26, 2011 at 5:31 pm

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Speak for yourself, Bru.


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Posted by Greg Fernandez Jr
a resident of another community
on Aug 26, 2011 at 5:59 pm

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how does anyone explain WTC Building 7 and its mysterious collapse? You are doing a disservice to those who lost their family members by denying the truth that the 9/11 Commission Report was a whitewash.

The family members want the truth. Put yourself in their shoes. What if it was your family member in those buildings hearing explosives going off? there is footage of fire fighters on camera saying they watched the lobby collapse before the second plane hit. we have over 100 police, firefighters and EMTS, and others who all heard bombs going off throughout the whole day. But physics alone proves that a 100 floor building cannot collapse at free fall speed in 10 seconds, after being hit by an airplane within an hour. both towers burned for about an hour and fall at free-fall speed? with no resistance?

my dad is a retired firefighter and I can assure you that if it was him in those buildings I would also demand answers, real answers. its one thing to bash other people's views with evidence. But you who deny that the 9/11 official story is bogus are only fooling yourself. We want the truth so we seek it. Debates are great on this topic, but why are the first responders who risked their lives now being told they can't go to Ground Zero? why did WTC 7 fall on 9/11? No plane hit it! these are just a few of the unanswered questions being posed.

Unless you can prove 9/11 happened the way the government said it did, it's best to keep your opinion to yourself, or look foolish by attacking someone who is seeking truth in this matter.

Perhaps when you meet one these fire fighters who heard, saw, felt explosions, then you will take this issue seriously. turning away from the truth is not going to make this issue go away.

Lastly, let's remember that a conspiracy only takes two or more people. thus, by definition, the official story is a conspiracy. that makes anyone who believes in the official story a conspiracy theorist too. the only difference is that the facts are not your side.

William Rodriguez, Barry Jennings, and the first responders such as John Schroder all reported explosions going off. First Responder John Schroder also is on record stating that he and afellow firefighter were in the tower an opened a closet door and found a dead body with a bullet hole in the temple.

If you want to respect what the first responders did that day, then learn about their stories. If interested I will provide more links, info or whatever you wish.

I had three cousins and friends who went to iraq and fought in that war and will never be the same. all based on lies, lies that began with 9/11.

This is not about tin foil hats. This is about truth. perhaps you've never met a family member - or saw one on mainstream news - that wants answers. the media doesnt report about them. they usually just report about the family members who want to move on. But they dont speak for all family members. Neither do I, neither do you.


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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Aug 27, 2011 at 5:28 pm

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WTC 7 fell because of the hours of fire from the diesel fuel stored in the sub basements. Explosions are common in any large building fire. The one conspiratorial element of the commission was the failure to give proper weight to the phony substitute fire proofing used in the upper floors of both towers. While asbestos fireproofing of steel usually is rated 4 hour, the substitute fire proofing broke away on impact. [as an aside, the Challenger disaster was also caused by a failed substitute for the proven foam of earlier shuttle flights.]


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Posted by Hire An Engineer
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Aug 28, 2011 at 8:23 am

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Greg,

The analysis is in and why the towers fell is as known as it is every going to be. Walter has given you the synopsis. Bin Laden was an evil man who destroyed a lot of lives that day. Dont be one of the lives he destroyed. Move on and stop selling conspiracy theories to the gullible and do something productive with your life.


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