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Police: Outrage over homicides leads to tips

Original post made on Jul 29, 2011

After decades of adhering to a "no-snitch" culture, East Palo Alto residents are coming forward with tips about recent murders as they never have before, East Palo Alto police are saying.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, July 29, 2011, 8:24 AM

Comments (9)

Posted by Mr. Ironic, a resident of Midtown
on Jul 29, 2011 at 9:31 am

Hope it works but the cops arent making it easy. Just this morning i was pulled over cause Im a black male from East Palo Alto. Since alot of crazy stuff has been going on so they are pulling people that fit the profile, lucky me. Cop asked what I was doing? where I was going? and I told him "Im taking my 7yr old son to summer school before I go to work". The cop then said "oh hes in summer school cause he is a problem kid with bad grades aye". WTF I told him my son was top of his class and I have to work during the summer so he is in summer school. My son asked me "why did he say that about me?" I told him dont worry about it and just have fun at school but I could see the anger in my sons face. And they wonder why the citizen/cop communication is barely there. Just cause he is black and in summer school the cop wanted to question my sons intelligence and behavior. But I bet they think little white kids go to summer school to polish their skills. I dont teach my son to hate cops he develops his own opinion of them from his encounters with them. Its like a never ending cycle from generation to generation. Cops built this brick wall dividing the citizens and the police and while some maybe trying to break down that wall other cops are adding more bricks to it.


Posted by Hmmm, a resident of East Palo Alto
on Jul 29, 2011 at 10:02 am

Wow, that was some lousy comment that cop made. Mr. Ironic. I know black men who get pulled over for - you got it - being black. It happens all over. One of them is an ex-cop w/a law degree. He gets pulled over in Mt. View sometimes. Two other men I've worked with, one a drug counselor, one a teacher, have gotten pulled over pretty regularly for "DWB" - driving while black. That's lousy enough. But to have one be mouthy & rude? Unacceptable.

Yes, when I was a kid, since I'm white, my summer school was to polish me - "cotillion", before finishing school ;-) Summer school, summer camp - kids have to be somewhere safe when parents have to work.

Once again, even though we live in the same place, the racial divide is a shocking reminder that my white privilege is just that - a privilege, not something I've earned. I am sorry that this is what your son has been exposed to, due to this guy's snideness & lack professionalism. Hang in there.


Posted by Wondering?, a resident of Midtown
on Jul 29, 2011 at 10:08 am

Mr. Ironic

I feel for you and your son and want to try and understand. What was the race of this particular "cop"? If he is judging you by race then we should be able to judge him by his race.

Hopefully, you can teach your son that it is individuals inside the uniform that makes each cop different from each other. There can be "bad cops" and there can also be "good cops", and that they shouldn't all be judged the same just like all black people or white or blue people shouldn't be judged the same.

Hope your son is enjoying summer school.


Posted by Pursue apology, a resident of Green Acres
on Jul 29, 2011 at 10:40 am

Mr. Ironic, if I were you, I'd pursue an apology from this "officer". Write a letter to community relations or visit them and pursue this in a polite manner. It will demonstrate to your son that this isn't acceptable, and I can't imagine that you won't get some response. Good luck!!! This kind of behavior is totally unacceptable and should not be tolerated.


Posted by G TOWN, a resident of East Palo Alto
on Jul 29, 2011 at 10:51 am

HOW ANY MURDERS HAVE EPA POLICE SOLVED?Not many at all sorry to tell you.More have went unsolved than solved.What yall need to do is pay people like me and others who lived or from the hood to break the cycle.Create a big brother club.My people will never listen to the system.I PROMOTE PEACE AND WHEN IM AROUND THATS WHAT IT IS.Not saying that young people will take all that im teaching in and turn there life around,but getting someone atention is the point.I hate what goes on in my hood.My blood was spilled in the streets of east palo alto on Jan.2 2010 when J.R. WAS GUNNED DOWN.I wish things were different but the hood has no love.Police need to do there jobs the right way.Humble and mild spirit might help when you guys have an aproach instead of cocky LIKE YOUR BADGES MAKE YOU UNTOUCHABLE.


Posted by Mr. Ironic, a resident of Midtown
on Jul 29, 2011 at 11:56 am

GTOWN is right we need more programs for the youth plus we need people closer to their generation with experience that they can relate to. I worked at a school for group home kids and at risk youth and they respected and listened to me cause I could relate to them.

I cant complain to the police about the police. Ive tried before. Ive walked into the EPA police department to complain about being constantly profiled and my complaint basically was swept under the rug with the lady at the front desk telling a long story about how hard it is to be a officer and to just hang in there. Then I became more of a target. A judge told me I should write my congressman cause I would get bogus tickets and have to appear in his court hella times (losing hours at work) just to get them thrown out due to the fact the cops would never show. They hide behind that badge and gun. The cop this morning who was asain seemed like he was trying to get me to jump out the pocket so he could have an excuse to beat me down, shoot me or arrest me. You learn to roll with the punches. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]


Posted by Steve C, a resident of Menlo Park
on Jul 29, 2011 at 12:09 pm

Mr. Ironic, a name and badge # would go a long way towards correcting the type of behavior you experienced at the hands of this officer. You also know where you were and what time it was when you were pulled over and subjected to racial harassment. Somebody knows who this officer is, and you can bet that this was not an isolated incident. He needs to be removed from public service ASAP.


Posted by Hmmm, a resident of East Palo Alto
on Jul 29, 2011 at 12:48 pm

Hmmm is a registered user.

Mr. Ironic, sounds like you're wise enough to pick your battles. Your story reminds me of the Latino man who recently was targeted by the cops after his home was wrongly raided. It's fine for all of us to suggest you file a complaint, but only you know if that's the best thing for you. Like you said, just rolling w/it is sometimes the best way to go.

When women in my area were systematically being harassed one summer, I confronted the stalker outside my bedroom window late one night & dialed 911 at the same time. Can you believe that one of the arriving cops - a deputy w/the S.O., actually lectured me - yelling at me - about not managing to hold the guy til they arrived? Seriously. I slammed the door in that cop's face because I was so disgusted. But I got a phone call of apology from his sergeant because the other cops could tell I was one angry citizen. Guess what happened to that deputy? He eventually got into trouble for domestic violence. I wasn't going to file a complaint since he was one of our beat officers & who knows? I may have needed his help in the future. It comes down to picking your battles. I wish I could offer you more than sympathy & a bit of understanding.


Posted by Sue Dremann, Palo Alto Weekly staff writer
on Jul 29, 2011 at 2:55 pm

Sue Dremann is a registered user.

Mr. Ironic,

Did this happen in Palo Alto or with East Palo Alto cops?


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