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California passes the "dream act" for illegal immigrants

Original post made by CA mom on Jul 26, 2011

How did this happen? Isn't it time to stop encourage illegal immigration?

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Posted by dreamer, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Jul 26, 2011 at 10:02 am

The DREAM act discourages illegal immigration. It only applies to kids who have been here for many years already, not to new immigrants.

Just like abstinence-only sex eduction is proven not to work, the just-say-no immigration reform is also proven not to work.

Posted by anonymous, a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jul 26, 2011 at 2:58 pm

yep, it's a racket to buy votes. Pure and simple.

And if you think it will "only" apply to a narrow slice of illegals, I have a bridge to sell you...think back about Reagan's amnesty for illegals "who were already here" - that only opened the floodgates to invite thousands, if not millions of more illegals in to the U.S.

Posted by Walter_E_Wallis, a resident of Midtown
on Jul 26, 2011 at 4:02 pm

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Just another slice off the advantage of citizenship. As soon as they get the alien vote...

Posted by parent, a resident of Gunn High School
on Jul 26, 2011 at 8:03 pm

Very sad to know this is how government is spending our tax dollars.
Why are the "legal" members of our society are asked to sacrifice and suffer. Why will "legal" students, the disabled, poor, etc. be subject to budget cuts, when illegals are getting unwarranted school funding.

If anyone knows of organizations fighting the next bill, please post.

Posted by CA mom, a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jul 26, 2011 at 10:15 pm

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This is serious and I encourage everyone to write and speak up! Illegal immigrants enjoyed K-12 free education for years and other public subsidies. Its time for them to know that they will not get a free ride anymore!

Posted by Yup, agree with CA mom, a resident of Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on Jul 27, 2011 at 4:59 am

Wait for Dream Act 2: Not only are there shrinking college spaces, grants and loans for the California students of parents who are here legally and have paid Ca taxes for 30 years, next up is Dream Act Part 2: (Like so many Orwellian lies, it is actually Part 3, ..Part 1 was having kids of illegals not have to pay out of State tuition, but kids of citizens of another State have to pay out-of-state tuition)...Next part, what they are Orwellian-named Part 2, children of illegal aliens are then going to be eligible for TAX FUNDED scholarships and grants.

Let's get this straight. I have paid, literally, 100s of thousands of dollars in taxes for the last 30 years to California, alone. Not to mention how much to the Feds. The govt, State and Fed, has completely spent every penny, and borrowed so much our kids, if they ever get work, will have to pay for what we are borrowing now.

I am broke now, and in debt. Much like our State and Nation. I paid all those years believing I was paying into a "safety net" that I would want to have there if I weren't able to make what i was making.

Instead of a "safety net" for college for our kids, tuition is rising, there are fewer classrooms available, less grant and scholarship money. I have to pay more for everything from tuition to dorm to books.

And STILL the left, after blowing my hard-earned money for 30 years, is trying to steal from my kids and give to non-payers kids?

I would have been better off keeping at least 1/2 my taxes and buying gold and stock. At least I would have enough now to not worry about how to pay for my retirement and my kids' colleges.

And don't even get me started on the "Social Security Lockbox" full of cobwebs.

These last few years have turned me into a full-fledged libertarian right-winger. I have learned....almost no State an Fed taxes is best ( obviously, paying for security is separate)...private charities only for help to those who need it, local control of all else with taxation as determined locally for schooling to firefighters. Govt can't help itself, it exists only to spend your money and borrow more, all in the name of its own power.

So, of course, the right thing to do now that we have decimated the taxpaying base in Ca is to borrow more money to pay for kids ( yes, I know, they couldn't help it..) of people who never paid a thing so that kids of taxpayers have an even harder time finding a college spot and college funds.

Typical....all about buying votes. We are perilously close, if not already there in California, to having the takers outvote the makers.

Posted by Walter_E_Wallis, a resident of Midtown
on Jul 27, 2011 at 5:09 am

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A lot of this could have been averted just by demanding picture ID to vote.

Posted by palo alto mom, a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jul 27, 2011 at 9:27 am

Either we educate kids or not. As mentioned above - we already pay for illegal immigrant's education K-12 - something around $100K per kid. These kids grow up, want to contribute to society, finish their education, get jobs and pay taxes - and then we tell them no thanks?

Either we don't pay to educate illegal immigrants at all or we let them become really productive members of society.

Posted by Walter_E_Wallis, a resident of Midtown
on Jul 27, 2011 at 10:55 am

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How about we let them go home?

Posted by Jim H., a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jul 27, 2011 at 11:05 am

@ Dreamer, who said, "The DREAM act discourages illegal immigration. It only applies to kids who have been here for many years already, not to new immigrants."

Even those brought to America illegaly as young children by their parents, are still illegal immigrants. I know it's a small number, and it's not their fault, and those wanting an education are not the ones we should be deporting, but to say that providing a better education for your family (including your young children, eventually) discourages illegal immigration, is flat out incorrect.

Posted by anonymous, a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jul 27, 2011 at 2:15 pm

Last night, evening host John Rothmann, 10PM - 1AM on KGO radio, had on two education bureaucrats who were complaining about lack of funding in CA K-12 education.
When someone asked about the impact of educating illegal alien children in California, I was interested that one of the bureaucrats refused to acknowledge the high cost of that but instead waxed romantically about supposed cultural enrichment we all gain, etc., rather than addressing the question of how can we afford to educate (complete with bilingual support, special ed, free lunch, etc.) these illegal masses.
It is crystal clear in this world that the U.S. has established a very strong track record of legal immigration, refugee support, etc., and we hardly need to resort to continuing to permit floods of illegals in here in order to culturally enrich our schools.
My God, check us out compared to immigration permitted into Japan, for example.

Posted by Paul, a resident of Downtown North
on Jul 27, 2011 at 2:34 pm

Is this law more like the G W Bush Dream Act of 2006 or the Reagan Amnesty of 1987?

Posted by Walter_E_Wallis, a resident of Midtown
on Jul 27, 2011 at 3:57 pm

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This is just one more example of selective law obedience.

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