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on Oct 5, 2010
This whole continued diatribe concerning Victor Frost is nothing but a shameful use of our already ultra liberal Palo Alto. He and his lawyer continually play the system for no other reason than noriety. It is all a waste of taxpayer money and does nothing but advance Palo Alto into a little San Francisco in regards to panhandlers. Get tough Palo Alto!, the ACLU and the court system that keeps catering to such behaviour as continually exhibeted by Mr. Frost. The police department and city officials should get tough and get him off the street. He is nothing but an exhibitionist, has funds and a place to live, and is fat with plenty of food and has certaintly abuse his fifteen minutes of fame.
Perhaps instead of turning the unfortunate into criminals we should add a few more benches (instead of removing them).
Everyone has the right to sit down when they're weary, and to relax and enjoy a beautiful day instead of being shuffled off and away because they don't fit some pathetic narrow view of what is appropriate in attire and appearance.
While I know Victor's intent in positioning himself there is in the hopes of assistance, he is not aggressive or offensive. He's just there with his sign.
Aren't you glad it's not you that has to walk that path?
Have a heart!
p.s. Fred to assume someone is fat because they are well fed reflects ignorance.
It is much more likely that the fat is the result of cheap, starchy food and nutritional imbalance that causes health & body imbalances.
There but for fortune...
We've had years and years of this fool feeling entitled to panhandle and cry poor, when he apparently has some subsidized housing arrangement and doubtless receives General Assistance. I can't say this for sure, but I doubt he's ever signed up for the Downtown Streets Team program to work for a living.
I applaud the City for not lying down (pun intended) and taking any more from Frost.
Elizabeth - you obviously have no idea about Frost's behavior in the past. Cursing. Racial slurs. Physical confrontations.
How does that fit your narrow view?
What's the deal w/women always defending Frost? On a similar, earlier thread, it was someone named Anne.
Frost is a disrespectful, nasty person. Perhaps Elizabeth will donate a bench so that Frost & his ilk can hang out & harass people all day?
I just can't believe that we are still arguing about Victor Frost. The man certainly appears to have mental problems and is enjoying his 15 minutes of fame (which has stretched into "hours" of fame) at our expense. I personally have seen him yelling at people who have come out of Whole Foods and are trying to go to their cars. Some people, I think, also have an agenda to irritate him and succeed in that goal.
That being said, aren't we all pretty much tired of this guy who certainly looks like he's able to work. I guess sweeping streets in PA and/or helping look after the downtown neighborhood is beneath the "ever personable" Victor. Let's take care of this issue now and move on to more important things. He's probably suffering from some form(s) of mental illness (I have a sister who does, too -- "borderline personality disorder" -- something that is much worse than it sounds and we've had to deal with that over the years.) Some people you can't help, but old Victor is and has been old news for quite a while. Please get this settled. I hesitate to shop at Whole Foods if he's sitting across the street. Random thoughts, but Palo Alto, please fix this situation which has got to be costing us taxpayers money that we probably don't choose to spend in this case.
The city is constantly talking cuts, cuts, cuts, use our resource better. How much are you getting paid to do this.
Put pride aside and move on. Prosecute some real criminals.
Elizabeth, convenient for you to feel that way, until he's sitting in your neighborhood. Fact is he has crossed the line of someone who is simply taking a rest.
There is SUCH an EASY answer to these problems, and it is NOT to push Victor et al to other Palo Alto neighborhoods or to other communities.
But being Palo Alto, none of you will ever think of it, preferring the grueling way instead; one in which you all yell and scream at each other in online rants.
Who needs TV when we, your neighboring communities, have Palo Alto?
I am a disabled person who has been afraid to go to Whole Foods for years because of Victor Frost. If you are old or disabled and move slowly he takes his nasty comments out on you. He called me a whore. I am on the Altar Guild at St. Marks Episcopal, and no whore. I complained, but no one did anything. Enough. Throw his ugly face in jail. I'm tired of turning the other cheek.
I too had a confrontation with Victor Frost. He followed me to my car and grabbed my shopping bag, all the time yelling the "c" word at me, and demanding food and money.
I should have called the police and had him arrested. Instead, I shop at a different store. But he recognizes my car and still to this day hassles me.
I have no idea why I attracted his attention. I can just believe I'm not the only one. Thank God for the young man who came along and intervened, yelling at Frost until I was safely locked inside my car. Bless that anonymous young man.
Can the city find other ways to spent the money? They could fixed the uneven sidewalks, I trip on one of them and almost fall. It is ridiculous.
Palo Alto DA,
Traveling around the world, I feel very fortunate to live in the US and in Palo Alto. There are so many human being who live in un-thinkable conditions. PA is ranked one of the most expensive cities in the US. I feel shamed by the rich-town DA who additively is going after a less fortunate.
DA, don't you have any more important cases to process?
Victor Frost can be aggressive and offensive. I witnessed him swearing and yelling at a disabled panhandler in a wheelchair, advancing on him aggressively and in a threatening manner. He has already taken up a lot of my time: I've had a police officer come to my house 3 times to deliver a subpoena to testify in court against Mr. Frost. The police officer was just as tired of the whole charade as I was. Our police officers have better things to do with their time. Victor Frost is an offensive nuisance and a clever manipulator. He is not a victim.
I'm sorry Elizabeth, but he is not just resting his weary bones!
Enlightened people should take high road. Eye-for-eye tactics harden downward spiral response, not to mention breading future generations of Mr. Foster alike to come.
Drop the case and move on. Take high road.
what a waste of resources
As a merchant in the "neighborhood," I am not surprised by the unwillingness of our City Attorney to enforce the law. We all have been living with this for a long time. Even though the laws are on the books, the police cannot enforce them without permission from
I am tired of his:
Laying down the on the sidewalk, fully prone, on hot days.
Using my back alley as his personal toilet when he thinks no one is working at my building.
Agressive verb asaults towards anyone who he feel is in his way.
Peeing on the sidewalk because he is locked out of all businesses in the area. ---Look at the stains on the sidewalk.
His Presence at his position on Homer frightens away business for me and others.
He knows how the system works and has figured out a the means to get around everything because the City will not challenge him.
What happens when this part of the charges against him are settled?
Does that mean he can continue to park himself within my vicinity?
Does the Law mean anything?
Will the police site him again for breaking the law?
Hey, Don Larkin, you need to answer up.
He was given free housing paid by the Taxpayers to get him off of Homer. Does that now mean that he will lose his freeby?
How come all these "bleeding hearts" don't invite good old Victor into their own homes??
Where's Mr. Giuliani these days when you need him. PA could hire him to fix this and it would be all over within a week.
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