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Did Paly baseball coach fabricate resume?

Original post made by Paly Alum, Palo Alto High School, on Oct 14, 2009

Jordan French claimed he was the starting right fielder at the University of Michigan for four years and worked as a manager for five years with a Los Angeles futures firm.

School records show he played two seasons at Michigan and barely saw any action. And Brian Ozkan, owner of the Los Angeles futures firm Tiger Financial, says French was a salesman for only three years and four months and never managed anyone.

School athletic director Earl Hansen, who hired French without verifying claims on his r'sum', downplayed the misleading statements in an interview with the Bay Area News Group and says he still believes he made a good hire.

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Posted by Lynn
a resident of College Terrace
on Oct 14, 2009 at 8:52 pm

You can have a title of a manager but not manage people. These management positions are called individual contributor.


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Posted by Jim H.
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Oct 14, 2009 at 11:43 pm

Hansen is a piece of work. He wants trees cut down for bigger bleachers, has gone through a handful of baseball coaches in the past 5 years, hands the keys to the school so Harbaugh can use his field anytime he needs it. He's abusing his power, taxpayer resources and the quality of his sports programs (except for his baby, football). He needs to think about what he's doing before he acts.


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Posted by Paly Parent
a resident of Midtown
on Oct 15, 2009 at 8:33 am

If the article is true; what does it say about the character of the athletic director at paly ?


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Posted by DC
a resident of Crescent Park
on Oct 15, 2009 at 9:02 am

It is time for a well qualified coach to be hired who is a good fit for our community, who will bring stability to Paly's baseball program, and whose character is solid. Mr. French neither has the qualifications nor is he a "solid citizen" if he has to embellish his resume, and then has to clarify the untruths. Paly's selection process for the baseball program is questionable at best.


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Posted by Paly Alum
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Oct 15, 2009 at 9:07 am

Jordan French, 28, a former Paly player, was hired as the team's fifth baseball coach in six years despite having no coaching experience.

"We'll certainly review this and see what happened," Skelly said. "We want coaches with integrity and who are honest about their experiences. We certainly will talk to this guy again and work through this. People want us to have good coaches. We need to get this thing cleared up. If he hasn't been honest, he's not going to be coaching, that's for sure."

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Posted by Little League Baseball Coach
a resident of College Terrace
on Oct 15, 2009 at 12:55 pm

Jordan French is young man - a Paly kid who may have stretched some facts to get a job. Who hasn't? But, even if Jordan's claims prove to be correct, he's not ready nor is he qualified to be a HS head coach. This is no longer little league guys. Paly needs a legitimate coaching staff from head, assistant to JV, individuals with experience who know the game. This is a very talented group of young men; let's not let them down again.


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Posted by Student
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Oct 15, 2009 at 2:48 pm

"Let's see, what did I tell you before? Five years? It was closer to four. If I think about it now, it was closer to four." -Jordan French

Hansen showed the Palo Alto Weekly French's resume and stated that neither he nor French gave the resume to The Daily News. Somehow, the paper obtained a copy from an outside source for a purpose that has yet to be explained. -Keith Peters (P.A. Online Staff)

Watergate meets El Palo Alto

It appears that Mr. Hansen still hasn't learned that defense of a lie only worsens the situation.
Palo Alto High deserves better. I encourage Mr. Skelly to lose Hansen and all his posse, with the exception of Dick Held who is a man of character.

Also, Keith Peters at the Weekly should shill for his old pal Hansen on the editorial page instead of the sports page. (Kudos to his superiors for pulling his piece.)
Mr. Peters should recuse himself from reporting this story unless he can show more balance.


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Posted by Robert Garfield
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Oct 15, 2009 at 4:53 pm

Hansen is incompetent and the fact that there has been so many baseball coaches in five years points only to himself. He does not support coaches and in fact makes life tough on a new coach. Giving the job to a kid without any experience....what the heck is that. Start in Little League not Varsity.


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Posted by Jack
a resident of Monroe Park
on Oct 15, 2009 at 5:03 pm

There is a lot of smoke here, but very little fire.

Jordan French was attacked in a very nasty gotcha article, but where are the real facts? I haven't seen them. From the looks of it, this is (yet another) attack on Earl Hansen, and French is just a convenient vehicle.


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Posted by William
a resident of Midtown
on Oct 15, 2009 at 5:34 pm

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Posted by Jack
a resident of Monroe Park
on Oct 15, 2009 at 5:46 pm

Well, I have been around the journalism game for quite a while. I see many holes in the published article, and I would not bet the ranch on it, as many seem to be doing.

If there is going to be an investigation by the school principal, as has been reported, then the reporter should also be investigated. The burden of proof lies with the reporter. Beware of underlying agendas.


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Posted by Concerned
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 15, 2009 at 5:49 pm

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Posted by Nothing Here
a resident of Fairmeadow
on Oct 15, 2009 at 6:16 pm

I do not know Mr. French nor Mr. Hansen personally, but this seems like a witch hunt to me by some angry Palo Alto parents as is the norm around these parts. The only way a newspaper report would even make a story out of something this small is if some angry Palo Alto parents want to make a scene. It's a shame. Those Palo Alto parents should be embarrassed for their behavior.


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Posted by Parent
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Oct 15, 2009 at 6:47 pm

I think there is plenty here that deserves attention. How does someone who has never coached before get hired for a high school varsity coaching position? That doesn't seem fair to the athletes involved. There isn't anything that has been presented (even in the "rebuttal" story originally published here online) that demonstrates why Mr. French is at all qualified for this position. If he is interested in coaching, he needs to start out assisting someone else and/or at a lower level -- learn those coaching skills, demonstrate them in a less demanding position and THEN go for a position like this. There have got to be stronger candidates out there for Paly baseball.


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Posted by VoxPop
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Oct 15, 2009 at 9:04 pm

Isn't the district required to do background checks for people who work in the schools? Just to avoid some recurring problems with coaches, of which there have been some recent examples? Just asking?


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Posted by Jim H,.
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Oct 15, 2009 at 9:23 pm

Who has the time to waste to investigate a high school baseball coach?


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Posted by Jack
a resident of Monroe Park
on Oct 15, 2009 at 9:26 pm

The school districts are required, like any youth group, to examine criminal background, especially sexual predators. If school districts were required to do a full backgound check on performance issues, there would probably be fewer teachers in any given district, becasue they get transferred around all over the place, as they get kicked out of other districts.

Relax. This is a tempest in a teapot. Some people like to make big issues, but this is not one. The local press is competing with each other. I have seen it many times in the past.


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Posted by T, from Duveneck/St Francis
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Oct 16, 2009 at 12:00 am

T, from Duveneck/St Francis is a registered user.

"Relax. This is a tempest in a teapot. Some people like to make big issues, but this is not one."

Jack, you write as if you have inside knowledge about the situation. Why should people be swayed by your statement that this is not a big issue? What do you know that allows you to make such a statement so early on? I'm asking sincerely.


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Posted by Paly Alum
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Oct 16, 2009 at 8:47 am

I think it is unbelievable in this day and age that references are not checked. There is no excuse but laziness, as we have the internet and free long distance cell phone plans. PAUSD is breaking rules all the time, perhaps because they realize there are no penalties.


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Posted by Jack
a resident of Monroe Park
on Oct 16, 2009 at 11:42 am

T,

No I am not connected in any way with Palo Alto high school, or baseball. I don't know any of the characters involved in this article. However, I have spent time in the journalism business, and been around it, and I can detect gotcha journalism when I see it. The first thing I noticed was that the reporter referred to an earlier article by a different reporter at the same newpaper. He misquoted the first reporter, regarding "managing". This is a real red flag to me. The second thing I had thoughts about was why this story is running so soon after another story on the same new coach, in the same newspaper, by another sports reporter. Unusual. My surmise is that there are underlying agendas.

I happened to be perusing this forum when an online artcle was published by the Weekly. This article was much more favorable to the athletic director. Then this article suddenly vanished. Reporters don't vanish their own stories, they are told from the top to vanish them. It was this vanishing act that aroused my curiosity, causing me to go back and trail this story. Again, what is the agenda?

Something is very fishy about all this, and I am not talking about exaggerations on a job/experience history, if there were any.


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Posted by Parent
a resident of Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on Oct 16, 2009 at 12:01 pm

Jack -
I also saw the online article published by the Weekly (the "favorable" one). If you read it in detail, you'll likely recall that it basically tried to downplay the questions raised by the Daily article by saying it really wasn't commonplace or necessary to check references, especially since the person in question was friends in high school with the son of the hiring manager. The article had the tone of a friend defending a friend -- probably one of the reasons it was pulled. Frankly though, the "favorable" article raised even more questions as far as I'm concerned -- it was along the lines of "it's ok, they are good guys who know each other". The real question here is does this man have the qualifications you would expect of a high school baseball coach? Even the "favorable" article said that he has never coached. Sounds to me that when people started wondering on what basis he was hired and what his qualifications were, that's when the issue of apparently exaggerated experience started. I frankly don't care why the reporter originally wrote the story. I am however grateful that the issue has been raised and made public. As I said before, there have got to be more qualified candidates out there. And as to the point whether this is important or not, I would suspect that it is very important and very relevant to the student athletes.


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Posted by Jack
a resident of Monroe Park
on Oct 16, 2009 at 12:10 pm

Parent,

" As I said before, there have got to be more qualified candidates out there. "

Perhaps this is the agenda for the gotcha journalism.


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Posted by Little League Baseball Coach
a resident of College Terrace
on Oct 16, 2009 at 12:55 pm

Totally agree Leland Parent, I know some of these players, a few will move on [and some already have] to D1 baseball. Jordan French is a good kid who may not have known what he was getting into when he was presented the coaching job. However, and I'm starting to repeat myself, Jordan and the assistant coach are not qualified to coach this level of play. We only hope Mr. Hansen can pull together a qualified coaching staff before the season starts. Good Luck and Go Paly...


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Posted by Jack
a resident of Monroe Park
on Oct 16, 2009 at 1:11 pm

It is quite clear to me, now, that there is a motivation to get rid of the new coach. The remaining question, for me, from the journalistic perspective, is who contacted the reporter from the Daily to do this gotcha article.

BTW, does anybody have a copy of the article that was published in the online Weekly? I did not save it, before it got vanished.

Just a hunch on my part, but I think this story has very little to do with baseball at Palo Alto high school, but much to do with the underlying politics of Palo Alto. I would like see a good investigative piece on this story. Somebody is protecting something. Maybe the Daily Post can look at it, since it is not involved, so far.


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Posted by Parent
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Oct 16, 2009 at 1:28 pm

Jack - I get that you have a fascination with the journalism angle of this. It could very well be an interesting sub-story.

But to me it is really besides the fact -- certainly not the important thing to focus on here. Don't you care at all about the actual situation at hand? Sure it is sort of interesting to think about how it came to light, but the real focus has got to be on making sure that these student athletes have qualified folks working with them.


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Posted by Parent
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Oct 16, 2009 at 1:56 pm

Jack - You're missing the point. It's not about the integrity of the journalism nor the newspaper articles (although I'm thankful that the issue came to light!). This is about the baseball players themselves. They deserve quality coaching from an experienced coach. That's the bottom line.


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Posted by Jack
a resident of Monroe Park
on Oct 16, 2009 at 2:05 pm

Parent,

I am not current on the sports situation in Palo Alto. However, I did play sports in high school several decades ago. It may come as a surprise to you, but sports politics is not a new thing. I experienced it with my own eyes, when a group of parents got the local paper to lead a charge against the football coach. The problem was that their charges were false. One guy stood up in a public meeting to defend the coach. He was yelled at, but he did not back down. It could have been a Norman Rockwell painting about democracy in action. This one guy stood his ground, until cooler heads prevailed, and a real investigation was done. The coach was fully exonerated, and was retained, and went on to win many more games, and was solidly supported by those same parents who wanted his head. As I think about it, maybe this is the reason that I became interested in journalism, because I had seen how destructive it can be.

My sense is that some parents want a different baseball coach. Why not just ciruculate a petition, instead of using the local paper to do the dirty work?


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Posted by Parent
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Oct 16, 2009 at 2:22 pm

Jack - Sure, I think we all know that there are politics in sports (and everywhere). And no one is going to please everyone. Again, separate issue.
Here, no one (including the man himself and the hiring manager) is disputing the fact that the newly hired coach in question is relatively young (28 years old), with no prior coaching experience. He has been presented (again, without dispute) as a former Paly football and baseball player, who is known personally by the hiring manager.
Does that sound like it is sufficient experience to coach a Varsity High School team?
That's the question, and I think that is the question that when asked started producing some of the "questionable" responses.


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Posted by Jack
a resident of Monroe Park
on Oct 16, 2009 at 2:41 pm

I have no idea if a 28 year old ex-Palo Alto baseball/football player will be good or not. He might become a great coach, or he might flunk out. The subtext I am hearing is that 'I don't want MY son to be exposed to an unproven coach, and I will use the local papers to prevent this!' Reminds me of parents who want to overcontrol their own childrens' lives.

The most interesting story here is the story itself, and how it came about.

Who was in contact with that Daily reporter who put up this gotcha article, prior to its publication? An answer to that question is an answer to the underlying agenda.

Perhaps as interesting is why the Weekly online article was pulled. A drill down into that question will hit various strata of enormous public interest.


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Posted by VoxPop
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Oct 16, 2009 at 2:57 pm

Sounds more and more like Jack does, indeed, have a horse in this race.


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Posted by Parent
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Oct 16, 2009 at 3:44 pm

Well, I never thought I'd have to explain to someone why relevant experience is important... or why you should be concerned if it isn't there. In any career/vocation, you start out small and build from there -- proving yourself along the way. While this particular situation doesn't have any impact on me personally, I think as a community that we owe it to our children/students to make sure we hire qualified people to work with them -- as coaches, as teachers, as bus drivers, as principals, whatever.


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Posted by Jack
a resident of Monroe Park
on Oct 16, 2009 at 3:54 pm

"Sounds more and more like Jack does, indeed, have a horse in this race."

At this point, indeed I do.

I want to know why the online Weekly article was pulled. Then I want to know why the original gotcha article was published. Who spoke to whom, and when? Or, as Sam Irvin said, "What did you know, and when did you know it?" This is a potentially facinating local politcal expose. The dot connections on this issue could be a real, though shortlived, blockbuster.

If this trivial thing can be figured out, the true political nature of Palo Alto will be exposed.


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Posted by Paly Parent
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Oct 16, 2009 at 8:10 pm

How did we get to this situation ?
What's the process for selecting a coach at Paly ?
Where are the checks and balances for a public institution ?
Who's running things at Paly ?

If the article is true; what other activities are of questionable character for this AD ?

More Questions


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Posted by Paly Alum
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Oct 16, 2009 at 9:44 pm

Jordan French has three siblings. I knew his sister at Paly in the 80s. "Jack" could easily be a friend of the family because clearly, his postings skate around the issue at hand, which is that Jordan is clearly unqualified and no one cares how it came to light.

Palo Alto parents are successful and don't believe in complacency. If my son were a Varsity baseball star, I would want the best coach for my son, not some kid who is a friend of the athletic director's son. Some of these players need to perform well for scouts. Doubt Earl would hire someone with such lack of coaching experience to coach his football team.

And Jack, just because you witnessed issues years ago in athletics, this isn't the same situation as yours. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]


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Posted by Little League Baseball Coach
a resident of College Terrace
on Oct 17, 2009 at 12:59 am

Guys, it smells but let it go! Move forward. Jordan is an innocent pawn; did you consider that he might have been one of Goldman's little leaguers in the '90's. Palo Alto's baseball program was hi-jacked by a select few. However, as a result of this embracement, we only hope Mr. Hansen is *into change* Good Luck and Go Paly...


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Posted by Deborah-parent
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Oct 17, 2009 at 1:09 am

Do you think the only criteria of hiring someone is limited to years of experience? How about knowledge of the game and/or years playing the game. Just because someone else can come in and say they have had several years of experience does not mean they have the ideal coaching philosophy for these players and circumstances, or the perfect coaching ability. I don't think we should judge a book by its cover here. I am sure a lot of people applied for this position. Someone else 'on paper' that applied might have had more "years of experience coaching". Aside from "years of experience", to my knowledge from the article that was published earlier this week that mysteriously vanished (?????) they are also required to write their individual COACHING PHILOSOPHY, etc... OBVIOUSLY, the TEAM of people doing the hiring saw something in this "28 year old kid" (since when was being 28 still considered a kid? would it be better if he was 55?) that people have been referring to that they did not see in any of the other candidates. The question is that do parents simply want to have a coach just because they have more years of experience or do they want their son to have a coach who has the willingness, perseverence, motivation, and passion to turn around PA's baseball program. None of us in this forum have ever seen Jordan French's coaching philosophy, and what his plans are to make this program a better one. The only people that have seen this are the faculty that interviewed him. It is simply not the "friend hiring a friend" situation here like someone posted. Which brings me to remind people to not forget that Coach Hansen was NOT the only person that made the decision to hire Jordan French. The decision was made along with other faculty members. It is odd to me that Coach Hansen's name is the one that is mostly thrown around here along with Jordan French.

Lastly, why was the article that was posted online for the Weekly pulled so quickly? I certainly believe that this is merely a subset of a bigger picture.


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Posted by Skeptical
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Oct 17, 2009 at 9:03 am

Have any of you guys seen this guy's resume? If you read Frazier's article he is very careful to never say that French put any of this stuff on his resume. He consistently refers to his conversation with French while the article's title suggests that he lied on his resume. I submit you this: the reporter had a conversation with French and wrote his "expose" based solely on that conversation as opposed to going off of his resume. Do you really think that a 28 year old college grad who worked in the financial industry is really going to LIE on his resume about the time he worked at his company????? Come on! Every resume that I have ever seen has the dates of employment written directly below or next to the job title. Do your really think French added a couple of extra years to his last job? Does that mean he deleted his previous job before that in order to avoid an overlap? Do you really think he wrote "STARTER at UM" for 4 years on his resume???

To me this is becoming more and more clear. The reporter had a conversation with French and twisted his words around to imply that he was dishonest on his resume. The reporter knew that Palo Alto parents would jump all over this and make a huge scene especially since French has no coaching experience. To me, there is a bigger issue here and that is likely involving Earl Hansen who has been running the Paly athletic program for years. Hansen has always taken care of football and virtually ignored the other sports so there are probably a ton of people that want him out. The reporter saw this as an opportunity to get the conversation about Hansen heated up and used French as a pawn.

Keep in mind that experience is not the most important thing in sports. Ask the Denver Broncos who have a 30 something year old first year coach and are in first place. I suggest you google Theo Epstein, Bucky Harris, AJ Hinch, Mike Tomlin, etc. There are plenty of young 20 and 30 something "kids" that have had tremendous success in sports managing and coaching. LOOK AT OUR PRESIDENT FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!! HE WAS A FIRST TERM SENATOR!!!

I urge everyone here to take a step back and really evaluate what information has come out and in what manner before making any snap judgements. If you all care so much about who is running Paly's baseball program then I suggest you find a way to talk with Mr. French face to face and evaluate his character firsthand instead of relying on some reporter who obviously has an agenda.


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Posted by Parent
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Oct 17, 2009 at 9:57 am

Ok, let's step back for a moment from this particular situation, because some of the things that people have posted have me quite concerned.

Regarding experience, it is absolutely the #1 thing that is considered when you are being considered for any position. That of course doesn't mean strictly looking at number of years of experience. Someone who has coached (or taught or whatever) for 10 years is not necessarily better than someone who has done it for 5 years or 1 year. However, they need to have some direct, applicable experience so that you can judge how likely they are to be successful in the role. (And coaching is different than playing; playing the sport can't be the only qualification. There are different skills involved.)

If someone is interested in coaching, I don't see how they could have *no* coaching experience. There are so many different readily available opportunities. In baseball you can coach Little League (including Juniors and Seniors, so up through high school age kids), Babe Ruth, travel ball. When hiring a head coach of a varsity high school team, I would expect that they would have multiple types of these experiences -- either head coaching at a developmental level and/or assistant coaching at a more advanced level.

The coaches cited by Skeptical are perfect examples of this. Yes, they were/are new coaches to their current positions... but they had coached at other levels previously -- demonstrated skills. The Denver Broncos coach is a perfect example. Josh McDaniels began his coaching career in 1999 as a graduate assistant at Michigan State, working under head coach Nick Saban. Before getting the Denver job he worked in the NFL for eight seasons, all with the New England Patriots: joined in 2001 as a personnel assistant in the scouting department, assisted the defensive coaching staff for three seasons, became the quarterbacks coach in 2004 and was named offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach on in 2006. He worked in a variety of coaching positions for knowledgeable people, and advanced by performing well in each subsequent position.

That's exactly the lesson here. You don't start out running the show -- you've got demonstrate/prove it with experience.


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Posted by Running the show?
a resident of Midtown
on Oct 17, 2009 at 10:35 am

I laugh at anyone who considers a high school coaching position as "running the show" -- IT IS HIGH SCHOOL SPORTS! Everyone needs to chill out.

Skeptical makes a great point -- all of this drama was taken from a side conversation between a reporter and a coach. The resume is legit. This is a witch hunt, pure and simple, by some unhappy PA parents. They are the problem, not French, not Hansen, not PA USD.


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Posted by Hobbs
a resident of another community
on Oct 17, 2009 at 11:08 am

French's statements to the paper are astounding. It's understandable if some parents would not want their kid influenced by someone like that.


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Posted by Hobbs
a resident of another community
on Oct 17, 2009 at 11:15 am

You're right, Running the show?, this comes from a conversation between a reporter and the coach, but I don't see how that makes it a witch hunt. I don't see how that means the parents put him up to it.


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Posted by Parent
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Oct 17, 2009 at 11:20 am

Must agree with Little League Baseball Coach when he says "Palo Alto's baseball program was hi-jacked(sic) by a select few." I witnessed the same thing starting with PA Little League and
continuing to present. While I appreciate Dave Goldman's efforts for the community, it comes
with a price. His former little league players are given preferred status on Paly's team.
Merit should trump friendship.


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Posted by Parent
a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Oct 17, 2009 at 11:26 am

How do we even know if what French said on the paper was what he really said. It's ridiculous for anyone to say they wouldn't want their child to be "influenced by that". It simply seems like twisted words from a reporter who was just trying to get a story. It was strongly implied by the reporter that he lied on his resume without ever seeig French's resume. Do people really think this reporter is credible? The facts are that French simply did not lie on his resume nor did he exaggerate any experienc according to an article on the Weekly that was taken down very quickly for some odd reason. It is unbelievable to me that this has become a word game. Yes, Frazier had a conversation with French over the telephone. Was anyone else there to hear this conversation to state that what Frazier is stating on his article is exactly what French said? Come on people, give PA's faculty a break here. They simply saw something in French that they did not see in anyone else. It's the whole package that counts not just the years someone has on their resume that counts.


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Posted by Jack
a resident of Monroe Park
on Oct 17, 2009 at 11:55 am

Now comes the followup.

In today's Daily, the reporter of the gotcha article is forced to confront the fact that French did not mislead Palo Alto high school. He also admits that the interview with Hansen was "by phone as he was dashing off to coach a football game". Another red flag, relating to the credibility of the reporter.

This reporter could be in some hot water, if French decides to pursue a libel suit.


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Posted by skeptical
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Oct 17, 2009 at 12:47 pm

Now the reporter looks like a huge idiot and all of you who jumped to judge should be ashamed. Good thing for French his father is a BIGTIME area attorney. This Frazier character should be trembling in his loafers. I am looking forward to seeing French lead Paly baseball back to glory!

Jack- lets go grab a pint at the Old Pro!


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Posted by Running the show?
a resident of Midtown
on Oct 17, 2009 at 1:08 pm

Now THAT was an interesting, foot-in-the-mouth article by the reporter today! I hope they sue him!


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Posted by Ret'd HS Baseball Coach
a resident of Woodside
on Oct 17, 2009 at 1:47 pm

who's the idiot? you just don't "walk on" and be a HS varsity coach.
Mr. Bowers knows this and will do the right thing.


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Posted by Susan
a resident of College Terrace
on Oct 17, 2009 at 2:44 pm

Baseball parents are the worst! Add Palo Alto parents to the mix, and this all makes sense. The local paper gets used to smear a new coach, in order that some parents can make sure that their little Johnie gets the best possible path to a college baseball program. After all, they paid for lessons by private coaches who told them Johnnie has the material to play at the next level (and they believed that line!). Hee hee...

Now that the principal has cleared the record, they will pin their hopes with Bowers. Bet his phone is ringing off the hook!


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Posted by skeptical
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Oct 17, 2009 at 3:19 pm

Ret High school coach- [portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.] And there are plenty of coaches whose first coaching job was head coach of a high school team. If you don't know this then it is no surprise you are "retired". It is very common for high school coaches to get hired with no prior coaching experience. Check out Mike Parisi in Arcadia who won 5 league titles in his first 5 years coaching after getting hired with zero experience. High School baseball is not pro or minor leagues or even college. As a mater of fact its not even close. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]


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Posted by Parent
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Oct 17, 2009 at 3:47 pm

To Skeptical, a resident of the Old Palo Alto neighborhood -
You are so quick to defend Jordan French - a kid who has NO coaching experience. Do you, by chance, have a vested interest in seeing him remain as coach?

I hope Earl Hansen, Principal McEvoy, and Superintendent Skelly do the right thing. After a disastrous string of baseball coaches, we need a reliable and experienced coach who comes with no agenda (as in pay to play) - and certainly no strings attached!!

Why would we want an inexperienced coach if there are other options out there? Just ask Los Gatos HS who did recently did a search for coaches and received over 30 responses.

To both Jack and Skeptical - French obviously exaggerated (lied about) his experience to the reporter. Why?
"...For the initial story announcing his hiring, French told The Daily News he was a four-year starter in right field for Michigan. Two days later, in a second interview, he said The Daily News got that wrong, that he had said he was a two-year starter. In a third interview, confronted with information gleaned from box scores, French said he was the starter for only the first nine games of his freshman season. All three claims are contradicted by the school's records. McEvoy and Hansen have said he did not exaggerate his playing days to the school.

The Daily News' effort to correct the factual error about being a fouryear starter in that initial story led to fact checking related to French's other claims and set the story in motion...."


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Posted by Susan
a resident of College Terrace
on Oct 17, 2009 at 4:43 pm

Palo Alto parents, on a mission to gain advantage for their own sons, will not give up. French may have been cleared by the principal but you can expect them to really go to war now. Bowers is their current hope, but if he does not satisfy, there will be some other back-stabbing tactic. You can bet your house on it.

This campaign will not be over, until the first pitch is thrown, if then.


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Posted by Parent
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Oct 17, 2009 at 5:30 pm

Ummm... Susan? If you read the recent article you'll have seen that the Paly Principal simply said that French did not appear to have misrepresented himself in discussions with Paly. She however also said that he hadn't been officially hired, and that no decision had been made yet. And by the way, I'm not sure why you think that only parents with players on the team would be concerned. While I'm not directly impacted by this situation, in general I find it very worrisome. I would hope that any reasonable person in the community would be concerned here too.


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Posted by Deep Throat
a resident of Professorville
on Oct 17, 2009 at 5:48 pm

I don't know anything about high school sports.

I was wondering which students didn't make the team or get chosen as starters by the new coach.


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Posted by Worried?
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 18, 2009 at 10:02 am

What exactly is so worrisome here?

Jordan French is 28 years old.
He has 3+ years of training and mentoring experience in the financial industry.
He has Division 1 baseball experience (how many of the 5 past coaches did?)
He is a former STANDOUT Paly football and baseball player
He is a local guy who cares about the school and the community
He was obviously hired after a selection process and deemed the best option by those in charge.
He did not mislead anyone on his resume and was totally slandered by a reporter looking for a story.

Seems like the ONLY thing that "Parents" in this forum are worried about is the fact that he has no coaching experience. Obviously this stems from a lack of knowledge about high school sports and ignorance of the countless examples of coaches STARTING out at the high school level as their first coaching job.


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Posted by Parent
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Oct 18, 2009 at 12:04 pm

Yes, I expect I would always be concerned when someone without prior coaching experience was hired into a Varsity Head Coach high school job. That is absolutely not the norm -- and shouldn't be. Has it happened before? I'm sure it has. Has it ever been successful? I'm sure it has been. BUT since it is an exception rather than the norm, if you do it, you need to be prepared to talk about WHY you are making the exception. What in particular about this person is so exceptional, so impressive that you are willing to take the risk? Simple question, and one that hiring managers should always be ready to answer.

I understand from what I've read that the Paly baseball program has had a number of head coaches over the past 4-5 years. Lots of turnover; no stability. Given that, it is understandable that there would be additional scrutiny here. If I was hiring someone into this situation, we'd have a long talk about the situation that they were walking into and I'd make sure they were ready to talk about their qualifications and why they were the best person for the job.


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Posted by John
a resident of Monroe Park
on Oct 18, 2009 at 1:18 pm


"It doesn't matter what anyone thinks. It only matters what the people who do the hiring think."

"If you are complaining about the hire and are an employer who has to review resumes and conduct interivews, you should stop posting now. How would you like it if people disagreed with your choices and hounded you left and right?"

I did a little bit of Google searching and came up with those quotes from the initial reporter on this Palo Alto high school baseball issue. His article was essentially neutral, although supportive. These quotes were taken from an article that he wrote about an issue at Serra high school, regarding a controversy about a new baseball coach. Web Link

When one sees an immediate attempt by a fellow reporter to go after a resume, then something is up, and it isn't really about resumes.

If I was the initial reporter, and an immediate gotcha followup was published by a fellow reporter, I would either be embarrassed or pissed off or both.

The gotcha article(s) are an embarrassment to the Daily. A retraction should be published.


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Posted by Hobbs
a resident of another community
on Oct 18, 2009 at 3:57 pm

What would the retraction say?


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Posted by Jack
a resident of Monroe Park
on Oct 18, 2009 at 4:29 pm

The retraction should say something like:

We did not thoroughly vet this story. We gave the impression that we had examined the resume that Jordan French gave to Palo Alto high school, but we, in fact, had not. Our very critical story improperly quoted from an intial article by another of our reporters in our own newspaper. The initial reporter is not at fault. We do not have demonstrable evidence that Jordan French lied about his resume. In fact, he has been cleared in an internal investigation by the school principal. We conducted a very brief interview, under pressure, with the athletic direct, and that is shoddy journalism, to say the least.

We reget any harm that was done.

BTW, I go by either "Jack" or "John". Sorry for any confusion.


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Posted by Hobbs
a resident of another community
on Oct 18, 2009 at 5:00 pm

I don't think you've read the stories closely enough. Hansen is the one who gave the impression the resume was wrong. He also gave the impression that French had been hired. If you believe the principal, Hansen was wrong on both of those things. And Hansen had a second interview so the "brief interview, under pressure" thing isn't relevant.

Are you not concerned by any of the things French said in those interviews? Including his repeated claims that he managed people. French told the paper he managed people, and Hansen thought French managed people. It seems Hansen must have gotten that impression from French. Hansen chose a coach with no coaching experience and suggested it's OK at last in part because French had experience managing a group that size. He was wrong about that experience managing people.


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Posted by Jack
a resident of Monroe Park
on Oct 18, 2009 at 5:33 pm

I am interested, primarily, in the journalistic standards that were employed here. You can go back and read my criticisms. High school sports controversies will go on until high school sports cease to exist. I don't find them all that interesting, other than that they serve as a vehicle to expose bad journalism.

This particualr case is an example where the gotcha reporter should have tapes to prove his case. He has lost credibility, if he cannot prove his case. His notes are not good enough. Gotcha journalists like to set up questions, in order to obtain expected answers. The entire notion, emphasized by gotcha, that French is not yet hired is self serving. French has been chosen as the next hire, unless gotcha, and his parent posse, can prevent it. Bizarre!

To put it in the venacular, this attack has stink written all over it.

Time to back off, and offer a retraction. Going down in flames to defend a bad story is not good for one's career. If he decides to escalate, expect some real dirt to be thrown up...and that is terrible journalism.


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Posted by Hobbs
a resident of another community
on Oct 18, 2009 at 10:48 pm

Maybe you're right. I certainly don't trust anyone in the media these days. The reporters could have made the whole thing up. But I doubt the wording of the questions could have any bearing on the things French allegedly said. If he said what the stories claim he said, I don't care what the questions were.


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Posted by Skeptical
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Oct 19, 2009 at 11:08 am

What if the reporter said something like: "It is my impression that you have managed and helped in the deveolpment of anywhere between 15-20 brokers at your previous job. Is this correct?"

French could have honestly replied in the affirmative because he did help mentor brokers. Is this the bold faced lie that the reporter implied? Absolutely not.

French also could have said something like: "I worked at TGR Financial from 04 or 05 until March of this year."

To the reporter this is implying that he worked at TGR for 5 years when in fact he started in November of 2005 (as was later disclosed) making his tenure closer to 3.5 years than 5.

The point is that French was not hired under any false pretenses and resume fabrications as the initial article implied and for this the [Daily News] and the reporter owe a retraction and an apology. My guess is that this Frazier character will instead try to dig up more dirt and further smear French in order to save face. This is sad and pathetic but unfortunately I really think that this is where we are headed.


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Posted by Hobbs
a resident of another community
on Oct 19, 2009 at 12:13 pm

from the recent story:

"Hansen, initially interviewed by phone as he was dashing off to coach a football game, said that he looked at French's resume and "was under the impression he managed people."

"Hansen listed that experience managing a group similar in size to a baseball team as a major factor in his decision."

Sounds like false pretense to me. I wonder how the principal can say the school was not misled, Hansen is part of the school and he was definitely misled. He couldn't use that experience as a key factor unless someone told him French was a manager.

Misleading the AD about being a manager is a huge red flag for me. When taken with the things French said to the paper, wow. Those things are frightening and make me doubt if he should be coaching kids.



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Posted by Jack
a resident of Monroe Park
on Oct 19, 2009 at 12:30 pm

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Posted by Jack
a resident of Monroe Park
on Oct 19, 2009 at 1:45 pm

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Posted by Mr. Bill
a resident of Community Center
on Oct 19, 2009 at 4:52 pm

Read the Paly Sports Guidelines. They can be found by accessing the Paly.net website. Coaches are supposed to be held to the same standards as when you condsider hiring a prospective teacher. If a teacher were to lie (or should we say "overstate the facts") then they would NOT be hired. If a teacher did not have the qualifications,they would not be considered a likely candidate to teach.
The fact remains that the AD does NOT give the necessary attention to any other sport but football at Paly. Everyone knows it. It has always been this way. It is now even more difficult to express concern over any given coach at Paly because we have a principal and her cronies, who support Mr. Hansen. Even though so many athletes and parents have valid concerns(verbal abuse,vulgar language, poor sportsmanship and basically bad and sloppy coaching demonstrated by coaches)and have "correctly" expressed them (As it is outlined in the Sports Guidalines/Rules, the efforts of so many athletes and sports parents have fallen on deaf ears.
Why doesn't anyone ask the Principal about the letters she received from the athletes and their parents about the baseball program at Paly? Yes, the ones that she NEVER responded to(again, against PAHS policies). I certainly hope that Skelly gets a hold of them and ALL of the other letters from the many parents and players from the other sports(Girls Basketball, Boys Basketball, Volleyball, Waterpolo,etc.) that have been "kept" from him. We can only hope that something changes because "Business as usual" doesn't work in an institution such as Paly that is supposed to hire only the best teachers and the best coaches.
So we say to Skelley and the Board Members, find out the truth! We are grateful that this is finally being unearthed. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]


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Posted by Jack
a resident of Monroe Park
on Oct 19, 2009 at 5:08 pm

"So we say to Skelley and the Board Members, find out the truth! We are grateful that this is finally being unearthed.

As I have already noted, there is an agenda pushing the gotcha piece by the Daily. It was hidden at first, but now it is out in the open. Instead of confronting it directly, these agendists have brought in the local gotcha reporter.

We are, finally, on the cusp of revealing the underlying strata of Palo Alto politics. This story is about to become very interesting. It has not been so, thus far, just a trivial high school sports issue.

Stay tuned!


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Posted by Paly parent
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Oct 19, 2009 at 5:37 pm

I hope someone sends Skelly and the PAUSD Board members a copy of Mr. Bill's letter. It's right on the mark. It's about time they did something about this unacceptable situation at Paly. One has to wonder why administrators who are knowledgeable about the ongoing coaching problems and poor choices which affect students' experience have chosen to do nothing. Politics, I suppose, but it's truly disheartening.


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Posted by Mr. Bill
a resident of Community Center
on Oct 19, 2009 at 5:41 pm

It is evident from the facts that you are not involved in any way shape or form with PAHS. I as many MANY other disillusioned parents have stayed far away from the administration after their repeated efforts to downplay any problem coaches. I have never heard of anyone going to a reporter! Why would anyone want this kid of publicity? It certainly wouldn't take much effort on the part of any reporter to findout the truth. A lot of it is public record.

So, sadly you want to blame it on the athletes and the parents. Just like the administration and the AD! I say BRAVO to the athletes and the parents who have the courage to speak up over continued wrongs! Bravo to the reporter or reporters that have uncoverered this "tip of the iceberg" problem with sports at Paly.

Since you don't know what is going on don't just accuse the messenger. He is doing a great service to these kids.
What is going on is WRONG and anyone who supports it is WRONG.


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Posted by The One Thing
a resident of Midtown
on Oct 19, 2009 at 5:48 pm

The one thing wrong with Palo Alto HS sports would be the heavily involved parents. Like Jack says, it is finally coming out with these posts. Palo Alto HS parents do NOT know what is best, myself included, and have not walked even a few steps in Hansen's shoes.

Mr. Bill's posts just proves Jack's point -- Palo Alto HS parents are too involved and want it all done THEIR way.




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Posted by Mr. Bill
a resident of Community Center
on Oct 19, 2009 at 5:58 pm

I am not going to sit here and argue with you. The situation has always been out of our hands. I will say that I hope that the truth will come out. There is no sense in us fighting this battle.
I don't think that this was prompted by any one parent or any one athlete. When something has been going on for far too long then it's just a matter of time. Seriously, 7 coaches in 5 years??!!


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Posted by SK
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Oct 19, 2009 at 10:02 pm

People are posting, but I'm not sure whether this debate is advancing. Most of the posts appear to be in one camp or the other and I haven't seen anyone change their mind, but rather, repeated posts from the same individuals.

Nonetheless, there seem to be some fairly clear legitimate points that are worth taking to heart:

1.) There seems little dispute that Earl Hansen has been the AD in charge of baseball coaching for some time and the track record of his stewardship of this leaves a lot to be desired. Whether or not Jordan misled the AD during the hiringg process, clearly the AD did not conduct appropriate references. It was also an indisputable fact that the young man had no experience. Would Hansen have felt that an inexperienced first time coach was more qualified than his JV football coach or one of his Varsity assistants? Why would he do the same in baseball? In this particular case, Jordan has no experience with pitching or catching, two critical elements in the sport, did not play a position characterized by outstanding fielding and had a very poor batting average. Will this help the players who want to pursue the sport in college? Will he have any credibility with recruiters? The track record in baseball appears to have been repeated in many other sports, so this isn't an isolated case. Given the recent history, one would have thought Hansen would have taken extra care.

2.) There does not seem to have been an appropriate level of oversight by McEvoy or the administration to this issue. Repeated attempts by players and parents were not responded to appropriately and McEvoy clearly brought a checkered record in this regard to her tenure at Paly.

3.) Many parents at Paly are self-absorbed and indulge their sons in a similar manner. The spoiled behavior of a few such seniors last year, backed up by their parents gave Hansen the opportunity to further undermine the only qualified coach he had ever hired, one he hired only because he had backed himself into a corner with no choices.

4.) It does appear that the administration, particularly Hansen and McEvoy are more concerned with threatening the reporter or parents who are concerned with this than doing the right thing. The ludicrous idea that there would be a legal case against the reporter shows how desparate these threats are.

5.) Hansen has appeared to have done a competent job as a football coach and this remains Paly's most important sport. He has had some weak points there, inheriting teams that performed better as JV than as Varsity and losing the most talented athletes at times to St. Francis due to his at times hostile relationship to the Palo Alto Knights youth football teams. Nonetheless, being a competent football coach is not, in and of itself, sufficient qualification to be an Athletic Director.

6.) Hansen failed as an AD not just in the hiring/retention process but also in failing to support his baseball coaches appropriately, indeed, putting roadblocks in their way. The Paly Viking magazine provided an excellent, balanced coverage on this point with the other baseball coaches lamenting the way Hansen had allowed the program to fail to deliver what it should have for the athletes. Parents who donated funds for baseball equipment and to pay off the debt that was inherited last year found out that Hansen refused to sign off on the purchases.

7.) Many people come to football games, few people come to baseball games. Historically, only the students and parents care what happens in many sports other than football. When the AD and the principal don't care about doing the right thing, the only people on the forum will be the small number of people who care, on one side or the other. That is what I see here.


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Posted by response
a resident of Meadow Park
on Oct 20, 2009 at 6:53 am

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Posted by Jack
a resident of Monroe Park
on Oct 20, 2009 at 12:52 pm

SK provides more evidence of the agenda that promoted the gotcha article. I would to try to move this story to the next obvious level: Who among the angendists will admit to contacting the gotcha reporter, before or after the story went to press?

As important is the question of why the Weekly decided to pull the story by its sports reporter, the one that was favorable to the athletic director. I think the Weekly owes the community an honest answer. It is clear to me that it was ordered pulled from the top. Weekly?


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Posted by Skeptical
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Oct 20, 2009 at 1:05 pm

SK- so this is your unbiased summary of what as happened???? What a joke. Are you sure you don't go by the alias of Greg Frazier? Do your research before you post- French was probably the best pitcher Palo Alto HIgh School has ever had. Check out his stats from his playing days if you don't believe me. It is blatantly obvious that there was a hidden agenda here and French got caught in the crossfire.

Are there any baseball parents in this forum? I doubt it because if there were they would be withholding their judgement until they met with the coach instead of going solely off of rumors. If you are so concerned about French's character, but have never met him and you don't have a son on the team then you should keep your negative opinions to yourself. If you do have a kid on the team then find out Jordan's contact info from the school, call him and formulate your own opinion.


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Posted by Mr. Bill
a resident of Community Center
on Oct 20, 2009 at 5:20 pm

I am a baseball parent.
I never went to any reporter before, during or after.
I do believe that wrongs must be righted.
I do believe that things cannot continue in this manner.

As for the new coach, I believe that it was purely because of the numbers of coaches that have been hired and fired in the last 5 years. It just doesn't look good.


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Posted by Jack
a resident of Monroe Park
on Oct 20, 2009 at 5:37 pm

Mr. Bill,

Are you aware of any other agendists that contacted gotcha reporter?


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Posted by Mr. Bill
a resident of Community Center
on Oct 20, 2009 at 9:32 pm

No, I have never heard anyone say that they were going to go to the papers.


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Posted by Jack
a resident of Monroe Park
on Oct 21, 2009 at 8:36 am

It appears that the gotcha strategy has been successful. The Daily has an article today, by the gotcha reporter, saying that Palo Alto high school will reopen the process for a new baseball coach.


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Posted by James
a resident of another community
on Oct 24, 2009 at 9:11 am

It seems like many posts--allegedly from different people--are actually coming from the same person entering in different names...

Attacking the journalists who wrote the story is just a red herring.


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Posted by Jack
a resident of Monroe Park
on Oct 24, 2009 at 5:49 pm

"Attacking the journalists who wrote the story is just a red herring. "

I am attacking bad journalism. All of my posts are under my name (Jack, or John in one case). Just curious, James, why would you support gotcha journalism?


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Posted by James
a resident of another community
on Oct 25, 2009 at 12:24 am

"Just curious, James, why would you support gotcha journalism?"
Again, you're deviating from the story, which concerns the qualifications (or lack there of) of Mr. French as Paly's baseball coach...


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Posted by Jack
a resident of Monroe Park
on Oct 25, 2009 at 11:59 am

No, James, the title of this thread is "Did Paly baseball coach fabricate resume?".

From follow-on published stories, by the gotcha reporter, himself, the answer is a big fat "NO".

I understand that parents get upset about high school sports, but really, is atrocious journalism a way to get your way, James?


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Posted by James
a resident of another community
on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:15 pm

I agree that the title of this thread is a bit misleading; we Mr. French's resume and we don't know on what basis Mr. Hansen formed his impressions. However, to the Daily News, Mr. French claimed he was a manager, worked for five years at a particular firm, and that he started more games than he actually had. This is untrue and misleading. Not much more to it.


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Posted by James
a resident of another community
on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:16 pm

I agree that the title of this thread is a bit misleading; we haven't seen Mr. French's resume and we don't know on what basis Mr. Hansen formed his impressions. However, to the Daily News, Mr. French claimed he was a manager, worked for five years at a particular firm, and that he started more games than he actually had. This is untrue and misleading. Not much more to it.


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Posted by VoxPop
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:31 pm

Maybe French told different stories to different people.


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Posted by Jack
a resident of Monroe Park
on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:45 pm

Or maybe Mr. French told the truth, and the gotcha reporter distorted about it. It wouldn't be the first time that gotcha journalists spun a story.

Here's a solid suggestion:

1. Allow Mr French's resume to be released, IF

2. Mr gotcha journalist relesaes his audio tapes of the interviews.

Solution determined, at that point.


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Posted by anonymous
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Dec 6, 2009 at 12:54 pm

It is my understanding that the decision will be made this week about the new head coach. I have heard that all but one of the candidates are currently or have been associated with non-Paly baseball teams, i.e. traveling teams, much like the previous coaches at Paly have been involved with. My question of grave concern is: isn't this exactly what Paly is trying to stay away from? When your head coach is also a coach of a pay-to-play travel team in the area that not every kid can afford to play on, politics will undeniably play a huge role on the high school team. The coach's decision making on roster spots and playing time will be heavily influenced by factors outside of the high school team and personnel itself. Last year's coach is a prime example, Donny Kadokawa. He is a coach of several Palo Alto travel teams that only privileged kids can be a part of and when he was coach last year, all of the players from his travel team no matter their grade level, made it up to Varsity and played most games regardless of talent level. This came at the expense of other players who were more deserving of a shot at playing time, but were not a part of his outside teams, ultimately leading to two of the teams best players, both seniors, quitting halfway through the season. The coach can't help but feel some sort of pressure from these high paying parents of the travel ball playing kids to appease them to make sure they get their money's worth. Please don't tell me we are going to go through the same thing this year.

Paly needs a coach that has absolutely zero ties and connections with any outside baseball team. If he does, the team will be subject to unfair political bias with kids who can't afford or are unable to be a part of the coaches other teams being the ones who suffer the most, which is completely wrong and unfair. It amazes me that coaches with these kind of associations are even being considered for this position after the nightmare the program has been through. For the sake of the kids, I sincerely hope who ever has the responsibility of making the hiring decision that they not choose any coach who has ever had, and will continue to never have, any sort of connection or involvement with any pay-to-play team . I also hope that whoever they decide to hire is done so for the right reasons and someone like Superintendent Skelly doesn't just step in and veto the decision as it seems to me that he is going to have a say in this and it would be very unfortunate for someone to be hired that was linked to him and his past. In my opinion, that would make these pay-to-play coaches being hired seem pail in comparison.

The kids deserve a fair shot at being on the team and playing and shouldn't have to worry about whether or not mom and dad can afford to put them on a pay-to-play team.


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Posted by PA Baseball Lover 143
a resident of Professorville
on Dec 7, 2009 at 1:04 pm

I totally agree with what anonymous said in the previous blog and sincerely hope there is no chance of Paly putting themselves through the same vicious downward cycle they have done so in the previous year by hiring any coach that is involved in these pay-to-play teams. that would be a travesty.

;)


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Posted by You got it
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Dec 16, 2009 at 8:28 am

Well they hired a pay to play coach.


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Posted by reality
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Dec 16, 2009 at 8:43 am

I am not sure who Paly hired as the baseball coach, but the reality is that most coaches with experience have at one time or another been involved in pay to play team coaching(club or tournament). Many coaches that coach other sports at Paly are also involved in pay to play teams. Many varsity level athletes play their sport outside of high school through pay to play teams and/or lesson. Quality coaches are often involved in these non school options. It is just the reality of many sports these days.


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Posted by Jack
a resident of Monroe Park
on Dec 16, 2009 at 11:22 am

Will there be another expose in the local rag about 'pay-to-play', regarding the new baseball coach? If enough parents are upset, can this coach also be replaced, before the season starts? Was Jordan French a 'pay-to-play' guy?


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