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Weapons, cash, drugs cars seized in raids

Original post made on Mar 7, 2009

Numerous large-caliber assault rifles and handguns, 10 automobiles and about $200,000 in cash were seized in the massive FBI/police raid against the East Palo Alto-based "Taliban" street gang this morning (Saturday), officials reported this afternoon.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Saturday, March 7, 2009, 4:29 PM

Comments (18)

Posted by Resident, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Mar 7, 2009 at 5:37 pm

This is scary indeed, numerous large calibre assualt weapons and handguns.

And "no relation to the international religous/political organization" does not wash. The fact that they chose the name "Taliban" means that they wanted to be associated with it even if only in the terror association the name gives. The international organization may not be responsible for this group, but this group wanted their name to be associated with the international group. This naming is not a coincidence, but a deliberate choice of taking the name to produce an identity.


Posted by ANON, a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 7, 2009 at 6:13 pm

THIS ISNT GOING TO STOP ANYTHING THEY TRIED THE SAME THING WITH THE SAC STREET GANG ALL THE POLICE DID WAS MAKE THEM SMARTER THE TALIBAN IS GONE MOSTLY BLACK NOW POLICE AND FEDS OPENED PANDORAS BOX I GUESS THEY DIDNT DO THEIR HOMEWORK GOOD ENOUGH TO FIGURE OUT THAT MEXICANS RUN EPA WHERE U THINK THEY GOT ALL THOSE DRUGS IM SO GLAD I GOT OUT OF THERE IN TIME EPA WILL NEVER CHANGE IT WILL JUST CONTINUE TO RAISE THE BAR THE FEDS AND LOCAL LAW CAN LEARN A THING OR TWO IF THEY STICK AROUND A LITTLE LONGER BUT THEY THINK EPA IS FULL OF IGNORANT LOWER CLASS CITIZENS AND ILL BET THEY THINK ITS OVER IF THEY ONLY KNEW IT IS JUST GONNA MOTIVATE HUNGRY YOUNGER HYPHIER STARVING REGULAR CITIZENS TO STEP IN WHEN THE GOV SPENDS 10 MONTHS TO TAKE DOWN A GANG OBVIOUSLY THE NEXT STEP IS TO ORGANIZE WITHOUT PROOF OF AN ORGANIZATION EAST PALO ALTO HAS AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR DRUG SPOT A SORT OF MECCA TO ADDICTS AND WITH THE ECONOMY THE WAY IT IS THE SMARTER MORE INTELLIGENT RESIDENTS WILL WEIGH THE ODDS AND FIGURE OUT THEY CAN EITHER GO FIND A MINIMUM WAGE JOB OR MAKE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS BY SIMPLY PROVIDING PRODUCTS IN HIGH DEMAND I THINK THE BEST THING THE FEDS COULD HAVE DONE IS SYSTEMATICALLY WEED THE GANG INSTEAD OF ATTEMPTING A KNOCKOUT BLOW WHICH WILL UNDOUBTLY LEAD TO A NEW BREED OF "ROGUE"


LOOK OUT BAY AREA THE FEDS MIGHT SPREAD STORIES OF SUCCESS BUT DONT BE FOOLED ALL THEY'VE DONE IS OPENED THE DOOR FOR THE NEXT GENERATION A GENERATION THAT HAS ALREADY COMTEMPLATED HOW THEY WOULD RUN EPA THE RAIDS HAVE JUST PUT THOSE PLANS INTO MOTION.


Posted by Cross-Eyed, a resident of another community
on Mar 7, 2009 at 6:47 pm

Anon,

Take the Caps Lock off. Cannot read your post. You're better off typing in all lower case.


Posted by YSK, a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Mar 7, 2009 at 10:18 pm

It's a cut and paste from an earlier post. Apparently punctuation wasn't included on anons keyboard. Must be the economy.

I have never understood the mentality of gang members who think they are 'all that'. The only reason they can invoke fear is because they have weapons and no respect for human life. Nobody 'respects' them. They despise them for the cowardly little worms that they are. I think the effort today is a good start!


Posted by ex meber, a resident of Menlo Park
on Mar 8, 2009 at 3:00 am

Removing some gang members is a start.Taking guns off the streets is a great win no matter the number.


Posted by concerned citizen, a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 8, 2009 at 5:06 pm

It's been so much racial profiling of afro-american & mexicans in the communities true there are some things that need addressing.The problem that affects the minorites and families, most of all. The parents of the arresstees should not have to suffer the humilation and wreckages these raids & destruction cause. Their's got to be a more humane way to bring criminals to justice,Going through the elderly is certainly not the answer.


Posted by Need To Know, a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Mar 8, 2009 at 5:12 pm

Weird that none of the articles mentions a raid IN Palo Alto. A friend who lives near Forest/Webster said there was also a raid near her house.

Anyone else know anything about that?


Posted by YSK, a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Mar 8, 2009 at 5:23 pm

While I am sure everyone feels compassion for the elderly there isn't much a cop can do when having to take down a criminal who is better armed than you are! These take downs have to happen simultaneously to hopefully avoid word getting out to other gang members, and at their domiciles hoping to reduce public risk. If anyone should feel for what these family members are going through it's the pieces of crap gang members who live with them and put them in harms way to begin with!


Posted by me, a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Mar 8, 2009 at 7:58 pm

I would just like to say that I was born and remain in East Palo Alto. The majority of what I have been hearing is all news to me. The FBI and Police Department are using the Gangs to conduct raids that they know otherwise would not have happened. True some of the people that were arrested need to be there because they are the bad seed and then there are some that don't. I know for a fact there are several people whom were arrested who are not part of this gang. Lable them as they are, some of those people don't have a pot to piss in or the window to throw it out of but there are all in orginized crimes. lol Oh Dante Gardner aka band-aide get the name right


Posted by To Need To Know, a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 8, 2009 at 10:14 pm

I don't mean to sound naive, but maybe if you or your friend call and ask PAPD they can give you a little info, and maybe you can figure out if it was a related raid or not. Since most of the cities where the raids happened are the size of PA or larger (excepting EPA and Menlo), and there's more economic and ethnic diversity, it's easier to picture raids happening there moreso than in Palo Alto.

I'd also love to know what was going on! Was it a house, condo or apt? Was it this past Sat. morning, at approx the same time? PA LOVES to keep dirty laundry hidden when it comes to crime, so it'd be interesting to know what happened. Maybe a raid on a call girl?


Posted by Using Gangs for Raids, a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 8, 2009 at 10:21 pm

To Resident of Old Palo Alto Resident: why should we care if alleged innocents were swept up in the raid? If they are innocent of wrongdoing, they'll be released. But w/that many firearms, that much cash & that huge amount of drugs, "innocent" they may not be. Knowing a gangmember is one thing, but hanging out w/people you know are in gangs can put one in the precarious position of being an accessory.

What do you mean by "The FBI and Police Department are using the Gangs to conduct raids that they know otherwise would not have happened."?? Of COURSE they are *using* the gangs - if the gangs weren't *using* illegal means, no raid would happen - and they wouldn't be a gang, with its legal definition. What are you trying to say? The cops are clearly sending a message, an important message, about what will/won't be tolerated.

Are you trying to say they exaggerated the need for the raid? exaggerated the dangerous element of these people? Are they using the term "gang" to bust a lot of people? Maybe the answers are all YES, but if it's true what the bust resulted in, arms, $$ and drugs-wise, then the results speak for themselves.


Posted by ex-member, a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Mar 9, 2009 at 6:57 am

congratulations Palo Alto!!!!
You are now on the map.You have gained notoriety in a negative way. I live in L.A--sad to say---the gang capital of the world.Your problem has now been magnified via way of the most destuctive tools known to man....the media!


Posted by Omar, a resident of Midtown
on Mar 9, 2009 at 8:58 am

And why shouldn't the parents have to share in the "humiliation"? They dropped the ball by not raising their kids "right".

Furthermore I strongly believe that parents of minors who commit violent crimes should be tried as co-defendants. (This absentee fathers who "conceive and leave" who should be identified by DNA-fingerprinting). If you make a baby, whether or not it was your intention, you "own" their behavior until the age of majority.


Posted by facts, a resident of Menlo Park
on Mar 9, 2009 at 9:51 am

There were no minors arrested. The youngest was 18 or 19. This was a bad group of people. 11 murders, 30 other violent felonies, a huge drug distribution network. Thank you to the FBI, MP and EPA PDs for taking these guys down.


Posted by Bob, a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Mar 9, 2009 at 12:13 pm

I wish East Palo Alto would get a new name - and part of Palo Alto, 94303, could get a new ZIP code. I flew into SFO the other night after midnight, and when the shuttle driver asked my ZIP code and I told him 94303, he indicated he didn't want to drive me there. And re: these raids, the TV reporter on one channel reported "live from Palo Alto". Our city council has never backed up its residents on a request to change that 94303 ZIP code. The Mercury News lumps 94303 real estate statistics in Palo Alto with statistics, e.g foreclosures , in EPA.


Posted by Bay Area Resident, a resident of another community
on Mar 9, 2009 at 12:48 pm

It's sad. But one might not believe that the MS 13's are here and that it is not a Mexican Group that brought the guns. It was people who opened up a New Japanese grocery store and $1.50 variety store. The guns were brough in a pine wood crate, and delivered around November 10 to November 20, 2008. The words were written in Japanese, if you read Chinese characters than you would be able to decipher the words. Now, we have peoople who are of Japanese ancestry who are in gangs, as if we didn't before. One might guess how much these people were paid. Remember people look real innocent but they can be very decieving.

Just a heads up from the word on the street


Posted by Webster&Forest, a resident of University South
on Mar 9, 2009 at 7:00 pm

To "Need to Know": I live at Forest and Webster and have seen no law enforcement activity in the area recently. Please be more specific.


Posted by TWLL, a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 10, 2009 at 12:12 am

I'M FROM EPA AND LIVE'D THERE FOR 26 YEARS.MURDER,DRUG'S AND MONEY IS ALL THAT IS PUMPED INTO YOUR HEAD AT A EARLY AGE.YOU GROW UP YOUNG WANTING A WHOLE LOT BY ANY MEAN'S.MONEY,POWER,RESPECT.WHAT MAN WOULDN'T WANT THAT IN HIS LIFE.BALL FOR A FEW YEAR'S GO DO A FEW YEAR'S.BUT THE MONEY IN THE GAME IS FAR BETTER THAN SLAVING EVERY DAY TO STILL STRUGGLE IN LIFE.BUT TO BE ALL THE WAY REAL BEING FROM HERE I KNO WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING SOMEONE IS FACING A LOT OF TIME IN THE GANG AND TELLING BOTTOM LINE POLICE NO ONLY WAT THEY ARE TOLD BY A RAT WHO FIGTHING FOR A GET OUT OF JAILFREE CARD.ALL THAT INVESTIGATING IT'S NOT HARD TO ROUND UP A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHEN SOMEONE'S FEEDING INFO.ON SUBJECT'S THAT CAN BE TRUE OR FALSE.EPA IS A CURSED CITY WE CALL IT THE SMALL TOWN CEMETRY.


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