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Hoover documents detail Iran's role in Iraq

Original post made on Oct 22, 2008

An Army terrorism expert who is now at the Hoover Institution at Stanford has released 85 documents that show that Iranian military and Lebanese Hezbollah personnel train Iraqi Shiite militants to kill United States soldiers.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 9:24 AM

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Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Oct 22, 2008 at 5:11 pm



That is great that we have clear evidence of Iranian murderers in Iraq.

Talking Iran, Now we know what Joe Biden was talking about.

"Top Iran Officials Recommend Preemptive Strike Against Israel"Web Link



Voters may dismiss such reports, but Haaretz is the MSM of Israel. This isn't alarmism --it is confirmation of what Joe Biden predicted Sunday and what ought to be turning the stomachs of voters who worry --rightly-- that if elected Obama's nickname would be "President Blink."


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Posted by W
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Oct 22, 2008 at 5:19 pm

Iran has always been more dangerous than Iraq. I bet that W wanted to attack Iran all along, but his dyslexia caused him to confuse the 2 countries and attack Iraq instead.


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Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Oct 22, 2008 at 6:21 pm

Iran will take Obama's measure. Unfortunately, that means bad things for the USA. Let us hope that Obama does not get us into a weak position, like Kennedy, where the only way out is a potential nuclear attack.

A cut-and-run approach in Iraq is an invitation to Iran to press its case. I don't think Obama will do this...he just lies about it in order to get votes from his leftist base. However, if he does follow through, it will be a tragic day for America, and the West, in general.

The game changer, in the war against the jihadists, is a representive, stable Iraq. It is already working. Iran will sweat blood, if they think Iraq is free to choose its own leaders, on a regular basis. Bush was right.


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Posted by Joel
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Oct 22, 2008 at 6:56 pm



The end of Israel
Don't forget that Joe also said people would be very unhappy with BO's response.
I believe that what he is talking about is a war to wipe Israel off the face of the map and that Barry will stand by and allow it to happen. Beyond Iran, Hezbollah has been oddly quiet even though they continue to stockpile rockets.


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Posted by Benjamin
a resident of Stanford
on Oct 22, 2008 at 7:04 pm



Michael Gerson at the Washington PostWeb Link looks at the probability of disastrous Obama administration and the possibility of philosophical miracle.
He's smart enough to understand that the doom is more likely but consoles himself with the philosophy.

I think we are looking at a bit of Obama pre-morse, a little bit like one of these 'uh-oh' moments when Wile E. Coyote notices nothing but air under his feet as he rushes off the cliff in pursuit of the elusive Roadrunner.

Now according to the laws of cartoons, Wile E. Coyote won't actually start to fall until he looks down.
So it may be that a number of Obama supporters, having already experienced their moment of delicious gloating over the Bush administration in the belief that Obama, if the polls are to be believed, will be the next President, are now feeling a sudden emptiness beneath their heels.
Biden was first, ironically, with his confession that Obama will be "tested". By Iran, he had the intelligence briefing.
They're like a dog who's chased a truck and has now caught it. Niebuhr comes in handy at moments like that.
Keeps you whistling in the dark.

Don't look down.
Just don't look down.


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Posted by David Tomeh
a resident of Midtown
on Oct 22, 2008 at 7:27 pm

This just proves that if Barak Obama is elected his foreign policy will be "I'll fight the terrorists by giving in to all of there demands. I'll leave Iraq and any other countries they want us out of. This is the new america why fight when you can run."

Run Obama Run


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Posted by Joe
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 22, 2008 at 7:31 pm

It's very disappointing to see Pro Israelis putting Israel interest ahead of US interest while residing in USA, it wasn't enough for Perle's and Wolfowitz's clans to take us to Iraq because of WMD and back off when the war went sour, now Felter's and Fishman's clans came up with another rehashed bogus report which US military has not been able to prove it in last couple of years!
Any prisoner with potential of being spared the torture and death sentence will confess to anything, Abu Ghraib prison inmate being one example!


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Posted by Links?
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 22, 2008 at 7:51 pm

Don,

Where are the links to the original documents? Who did the interviews? How credible is this information? Where are the arabic originals? Let's see the primary sources and not summaries of summaries. The content is certainly believable but so was the claim of weapons of mass destruction hidden all over Iraq.






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Posted by Ben
a resident of Ohlone School
on Oct 22, 2008 at 8:10 pm



Obamas advisers Samantha Power's and Brzezinski's lack of concern for the safety and security of Israel is well known.


Power wrote:

" Israeli forces refused to comply with the spirit of international demands to withdraw and the major powers on the Security Council were not prepared to deal with the gnarly issues that had sparked the Israelis invasion in the first place: dispossessed Palestinians and Israeli insecurity".

"Throw Israel under the bus" is what Biden was talking about


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Posted by bikes2work
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 22, 2008 at 11:15 pm

This is outrageous. A neighboring country training their neighbors to fight a potentially hostile invasion force from the other side of the world? I'm sure glad the U.S. wouldn't do such a thing. I'm sure we never trained any evil militants. Right?

But then again, what about all the help we gave the Contra's in Nicaragua? All the help we gave Afghanistan against the U.S.S.R? We're pissing away billions on two illegal wars while our economy and infrastructure goes down the crapper. Thanks W. Hope your happy with your legacy.

Don, I think you played right into this Republican Hoover Institution political fodder. Links is right.

And Israel can take care of itself. They did it before, and they'll do it again. With or without US. Why is anyone worried? Whatever he does, Obama won't deny the sale of top U.S. military technology to Israel. That in itself is all they need, and it is all we need.




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Posted by Les
a resident of Meadow Park
on Oct 23, 2008 at 1:03 am

How about all the arms and ammunition we have supplied to the Iraq and Afghanistan police and military which is now being used to kill Coalition and NATO forces? How dumb can we be.


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Posted by Don Kazak
Palo Alto Weekly columnist
on Oct 23, 2008 at 9:30 am

Don Kazak is a registered user.

Links?--

We're posting a link to the documents on the story now.


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Posted by Hah Hah David
a resident of Stanford
on Oct 23, 2008 at 10:05 am

David Tomeh--what else do you see in your crystal ball???


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Posted by The Real Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Oct 23, 2008 at 10:07 am

Sharon--at it again on every thread--trying to find ways to slam Obama--now it is conjecture and speculation on what my be--no proof of anything--but proof has never mattered to the republicans.


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Posted by Links?
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 23, 2008 at 10:12 am

I can only find redacted English summaries. Where are the primary sources? Where's the Arabic versions? Who did the interviews and under what conditions? I find it completely believable that elements in Iran trained and armed Shi'a militias, but this document is not sufficient.

After what Feith did to Pentagon intelligence, much more evidence is needed to backup summaries.



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Posted by Moe
a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Oct 23, 2008 at 1:45 pm

Considering that majorities of Jewish crowds having ill will toward Iran, make this report which is authored by couple of Jewish guy not credible.

There is law for inciting crimes and there should be one for inciting wars too.


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Posted by Bill
a resident of another community
on Oct 23, 2008 at 6:07 pm

Take a couple of hours and actually read the Felter/Fishman report. They acknowledge the problems with the reliability of interview data; but there's more to the report than that -- most notably (1) that Iran is making sophisticated political headway in Iraq, and (2) the US and Iran share some of the same objectives -- a stable Iraq rather than a fractious one.


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Posted by Joel
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Oct 23, 2008 at 6:21 pm


One thing is not in doubt, Iran wants to wipe Israel of the map and that does not seem to bother Samantha Power, Obamas adviser on these matters.

We now know what Biden was leaking the other day, Iran attacks Israel and Obama will do nothing but mediate

Good luck with that " Peace in out time" all over again


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Posted by Links?
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 23, 2008 at 9:35 pm

The report is a serious attempt to understand Iran's role and influence in Iraq, within the Iraqi government and outside of it. It's doubtful that the Coalition Forces can implement all its recommendation. Iran has some natural advantages here because they have cultivated their Iraqi Shi'a contacts for many years, even generations. The report does not analyze the outside Sunni support which is now considerable.



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Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on Oct 24, 2008 at 10:57 am

Not surprising. Cheney, Bush, and Condi provided Iran with a perfect training ground next door, and Iran craftily took advantage. McSame wants to keep the arrangement for another 100 years; the Iraqis want to end it soon.



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Posted by Mojo
a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Oct 25, 2008 at 2:56 am

Killing children and uprooting olive trees and denying food and medicine to fellow semite Palestinian should be main concern of Israelis instead of worrying about another country thousand miles away from their border while sitting on top of nuclear bombs and several billion dollars a year in freebee armaments from uncle sam.


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Posted by Bill
a resident of another community
on Oct 29, 2008 at 1:59 pm

Mojo, I think you're right. Israel should reverse what's been going on lately; and I'm sure they'll listen to reason.

With proper diplomatic overatures by the Obama administration, I'm hoping that by this time next year instead of killing children and uprooting olive trees, they'll be killing olive trees and uprooting children.

Bill


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