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Obama: The smell of fear

Original post made by Diana E., Santa Rita (Los Altos), on Sep 9, 2008

Amie Parnes reports from Lebanon, VA:

Obama poked fun of McCain and Palin's new "change" mantra.

"You can put lipstick on a pig," he said as the crowd cheered. "It's still a pig."

"You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still gonna stink."

"We've had enough of the same old thing."

The crowd apparently took the "lipstick" line as a reference to Palin, who described the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull in a single word: "lipstick."

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Posted by henry
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 9, 2008 at 4:12 pm



For the last few days Obama has been campaigning against Palin rather than McCain.

That is not wise, he has de positioned himself to running for the VP candidacy not the presidential one.


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Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Sep 9, 2008 at 4:18 pm

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Posted by Nic
a resident of Mountain View
on Sep 9, 2008 at 4:25 pm

The Obama campaing is floundering. It's quite apparant they're floundering and on the defensive. They're also sinking not just in the national polls, but also the state polls as well.

Down 20 points to McCain in North Carolina, down 11 points in Montana, down 7points in Ohio, and only up 2 points. in Pennsylvania, 1 point in Michigan, 3 points in Wisconsin, and a drop off the cliff in Washington State, from up 16 points, to only up 4 points.

The trend is clear, and ominous for Obama. I predict one month from now, there will be some nasty internal fighting going on with the Democrats. Because Obama gave up public financing, so now he's going to be going after many of the same dollars the Democrats as a whole need for November. This is gonna get expensive. Can you hear Bill Clinton giggling? This is just what he wants, so Hillary can run in 2012. A one term McCain.



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Posted by mary
a resident of Gunn High School
on Sep 9, 2008 at 4:53 pm



Yesterday he called McCain a liar.

Today he calls Palin a pig and a stinking fish ( I am sure the rest of the women in America will appreciate that comment as much as I do )

Calling her a pig and a rotten fish could be his "macaca" moment.


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Posted by Obama rules
a resident of Stanford
on Sep 9, 2008 at 5:15 pm

No link for this story. However the key sentence is:
"The crowd apparently took the "lipstick" line as a reference to Palin, who described the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull in a single word: "lipstick."

So we have a story claiming that the crowd thought something (how you know what the crowd thought is unknown also) and you extrapolate to Obama calling Palin a pig and a stinking fish.
And of course you get an assortment of comments denigrating Obama on this thread, one especially coming from someone, who on another thread asked for posters to be civil.

There is nothing so vicious as an upset republican


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Posted by OhlonePar
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 9, 2008 at 6:53 pm

"Lipstick on a pig" is an old phrase. McCain's used it.

Since Palin likens herself to a pit bull, I fail to see the problem.

McCain and Palin are liars. They keep repeating the same lies in their campaign speeches. So much so that the news media is beginning to point out the specific lies.

I've got to say it's a little funny to hear you guys complain about Obama using the word "liar" when you're not concerned by McCain and Palin lying. I mean, we're not just talking a little spit and polish of the record, but bona fide deliberate misstatements of facts.

WSJ poll out, Obama's ahead by one. And this is polling that took place during McCain's bounce. Interestingly, too, Obama's ahead now in Florida. If he takes Florida, he just needs that and the Kerry states.

He'll take Washington--the blue part of Washington is very blue and slightly larger than the red country vote up there. I'm amazed Montana was even in contention.

He seems to be moving slightly ahead in Colorado--a key flip from the last election.

So down to the wire.


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Posted by Diane E.
a resident of Santa Rita (Los Altos)
on Sep 9, 2008 at 7:55 pm

The source for the report: Web Link

Now for the comparisons:

Obama could claim he was merely borrowing from what the late Governor Anne Richards (D) of Texas said about Bush 41, "You can put lipstick and earrings on a hog and call it Monique, but it's still a pig."

But that will ring as incredible denial. Palin has used the "lipstick on a pit bull" analogy to describe herself, and her husband is a commercial fisherman, so we know who Obama was talking about. Or do we?

The bigger question is he running for something or against something?
This is not Presidential behavior.


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Posted by OhlonePar
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 9, 2008 at 8:21 pm

Diane,

I see, Palin compares herself to a dog and, ergo, any animal metaphors used by Obama are therefor suspect.

It's a little ridiculous to pretend to be offended here--no one made Palin call herself a b*tch.

Lipstick on a pig predates Ann Richards.

Here are some previous usages from Jake Tapper at ABC:

A Piggish Debate
September 09, 2008 8:42 PM

Last October, asked about Sen. Hillary Clinton's health care plan, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., was blunt.

McCain said Clinton's proposal was "eerily" similar to the ill-fated plan she devised in 1993.

"I think they put some lipstick on a pig," he said, "but it's still a pig."

A common expression, right?

McCain surely wasn't calling Clinton a pig.

After all, McCain's former press secretary, Torie Clarke, wrote a book called "Lipstick on a Pig: Winning in the No-Spin Era."

Elizabeth Edwards told some health journalists that McCain's health care plan was like "painting lipstick on a pig."

Tonight Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., said of McCain painting himself as a change agent, "You know, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig."


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Posted by John
a resident of Jordan Middle School
on Sep 10, 2008 at 1:00 am

In the animal kingdom there is an ability to smell fear. Animals can smell adrenaline, as well as urine both are precursors to trigger the fight, flight freeze instinct.

I am not sure what we are seeing in Mr. Obama. I suspect a little of all three. Anyway his indecisive action to confront McCain/Palin directly on issues and not sound bites will come back to bite him in November. There is still time but he better get to it or the market place of ideas will fold into a he said she said confrontation. If this happens the next media image will be a man picking on a woman. This is always a losing proposition for the man.


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Posted by OhlonePar
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 10, 2008 at 1:23 am

The smell of fear?

What, you stood next to Barack Obama and sniffed his armpits?

The hyperbole around here has gotten wayyyy out of control.

Palin's getting increasingly negative coverage in the media.
Troopergate's looking bad--Palin had had to be warned off harassing Wooten even before she became governor during her siste's divorce case.

Meanwhile her Freddie Mac/Fannie Mae blunder indicates that she knows zero about the biggest economic issue of the day.

There's a lot of negative news about Palin, Eventually people get over the excitement of fresh blood on the ticket and pull back from her--with the exception of her base, of course. Once that happens, then we go back to doubts about McCain's judgment.

The convention bounces in either direction have been pretty small. I wouldn't say either side has much reason for jubilation.

I suspect the debates will go well for Obama--not so much on points, but the huge difference in age and energy will be there. McCain seems old and a bit feeble. That will be very much in contrast to Obama and his graceful, energetic body language. He's telegenic, McCain isn't. And just in case you never knew or forgot--Nixon beat Kennedy on debating points, but Kennedy won the debate as far as the public was concerned. Obama doesn't have Kennedy's quip and charm, but he's a lot more dynamic than McCain.

And, yes, Palin will have some of the same advantage over Biden--but she's a little shrill (literally, her voice is)and the VP debate just doesn't matter in the same way. Biden just has to seem reasonable and he won't harm the ticket.


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Posted by Left of Boom
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 10, 2008 at 6:57 am

Left of Boom is a registered user.

Last October, asked about Sen. Hillary Clinton's health care plan, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., was blunt. McCain said Clinton's proposal was "eerily" similar to the ill-fated plan she devised in 1993. "I think they put some lipstick on a pig," he said, "but it's still a pig."A common expression, right? McCain surely wasn't calling Clinton a pig. After all, McCain's former press secretary, Torie Clarke, wrote a book called "Lipstick on a Pig: Winning in the No-Spin Era." Elizabeth Edwards told some health journalists that McCain's health care plan was like "painting lipstick on a pig."

Web Link


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Posted by Tuesday
a resident of another community
on Sep 10, 2008 at 8:18 am

Yup
this about covers it Web Link

BHO ready to lead..... the smear.


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Posted by Elect McCain????
a resident of another community
on Sep 10, 2008 at 8:50 am

Tuesday--right, whatever you say.
As others have pointed out this "lipstick on a pig" thing is not new, it has been used before and more importantly, John McCain has used it when referring to Hillary Clinton health care plan. So, he was not calling her a pig (because he is a republican), but Obama was referring to Palin as a pig (because he is a democrat)? Right, tuesday.
More of the republican double standard, an attempt to divert attention from Palin's inability to tell the truth (troopergate scandal, her stand on earmarks, the bridge to nowhere and on and on) and McCain's loss of his moral compass.
Sad.


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Posted by Not Naive as U
a resident of another community
on Sep 10, 2008 at 9:27 am

Yea what ever you say there Elect McCain????

Web Link

Have read you before and was not impressed.


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Posted by Elect McCain????
a resident of another community
on Sep 10, 2008 at 9:35 am

Not naive as you--as you can well imagine, I am not posting on this forum in order to impress you.
I stand by my comments and McCain's/palin's hypocrisy are there for all to see


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Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 10, 2008 at 9:43 am



Obama and Palin in action, he fires her! Web Link

Palins response to Obamas latest comments about herWeb Link


Enjoy


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Posted by Danny
a resident of Crescent Park
on Sep 10, 2008 at 10:03 am

Can't we all just get along...? PS - I've been hearing some very unfortunate things about Palin lately. She's refused to speak to the press and her "issues" are starting to be unearthed. I'm really astounded at the Republicans at this point. To put Palin in a direct position to assume presidency of this country without knowing much about her is the height of irresponsibility. From her zealous right-wing religious beliefs to her flip-flop on the Bridge to Nowhere and support of the slaughter of wolves and bears in Alaska. This is NOT a person who should be representing the United States in the event that something were to happen to the president. PLUS - she has five children! Sure, take on the most time-consuming job in politics, leaving your kids (including one with down syndrome) to be raised by nannies and caretakers, and then preach the importance of family values. What a hypocrite.

I was once undecided in this race, as I have a great deal of respect for John McCain's military experience, but they have made this now way too easy for me. It's Obama/Biden in '08, or we'll all in a heap of trouble.


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Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 10, 2008 at 10:06 am



Just in, Palin responds to Obamas insults at rally in OhioWeb Link


Lipstick on a Pig

Geez, give the guy a break.
So Obama can't tell the difference between pigs and pit bulls.
So what? It's not like he can't distinguish between a domestic terrorist and some guy who lives in the neighborhood, a fetus and an infant born alive or the lunatic leader of a terrorist state and a reasonable statesman......


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Posted by Elect McCain????
a resident of another community
on Sep 10, 2008 at 10:26 am

Palin's problems with the truth:

Web Link

Also in the picture that goes along with the story, McCain is not wearing an American flag pin and it i shard to see, but I do not think that Palin is either. What does that tell us about them?


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Posted by Not Naive as U
a resident of another community
on Sep 10, 2008 at 10:48 am

Obama sure knows a thing or two about pork.
Web Link


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Posted by Nic
a resident of Mountain View
on Sep 10, 2008 at 11:07 am

Do you think if I donate $900 to Obama - Obama will help me get a $50,000 grant?
or maybe $1500 and then Obama could announced $225,000 grant for me. I think I could become an ordained minister for that kind of money. And I deserve to have my hand in the tax payers purse.

I would love a ROI like that! I could buy a used Mercedes 600 from Rev. Wright.


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Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 10, 2008 at 11:13 am



One myth about Dubya is that he waved "hello" to Stevie Wonder.
Doesn't matter whether it's true or not - it's part of the narrative, now - but here is video of Joe Biden saying to a State Senator in a wheelchair: "stand up Chuck, let 'em see ya."Web Link

The Obama bubble has burst, the next bubble "Sarah America" will not even start leaking until after the election is over.

Th


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Posted by steve
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Sep 10, 2008 at 11:19 am




Here is the new campaign image from Obama, I must say it is really clever, that guy is fast with his feet and knows where to put them

here it is Web Link


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Posted by Danny
a resident of Crescent Park
on Sep 10, 2008 at 11:47 am

It's painfully obvious that most of these are from the same person posting under various identities. Some people have way too much time on their hands....


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Posted by opimist for obama
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 10, 2008 at 12:44 pm



Danny,

I like your kumbaya spirit, lets look at the bright side of Obamas current standing
A Graphical Representation of the Current State of the Obama Campaign
Web Link


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