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Democrats Made No Room on Abortion

Original post made by sharon, Midtown, on Aug 26, 2008



Tonight Sen. Robert Casey Jr. (D., Pa.) has a chance to avenge the dishonor visited upon his father.

That was in the summer of 1992, when elders in the Democratic Party denied Mr. Casey's pro-life father -- the governor of America's fifth-largest state -- a speaking slot at the convention. Though some try to rewrite history by asserting that Casey Sr. was not punished for his pro-life views, manifestly that was not Gov. Casey's take. And it was not the take of this reporter, standing near the governor in Madison Square Garden and watching his face as it all went down.WSJWeb Link

At the Saddleback presidential forum on Aug. 16, Obama was asked when a baby begins to acquire human rights. Sen. Obama responded that the question was "above my pay grade."

When asked why, as an Illinois state senator, he had opposed legislation that would protect the lives of babies who had been born alive despite abortions -- legislation the U.S. Senate approved 98-0 -- he said it lacked language that had been in the federal version. When opponents pointed out he voted against a version that indeed included such language, he accused them of "lying." When the evidence showed they were correct, he shifted again -- and has yet to provide a credible answer.

Obamas record on abortion makes Teddy Kennedy look like Rick Santorum.

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Posted by Elect McCain????
a resident of another community
on Aug 26, 2008 at 2:57 pm

Sharon--do you have a point? Are pro-choice people welcome in the republican party? remember that Limbaugh warned McCain not to chose a pro-choice VP candidate.
Anyway, why don;t you quote Obama's real answer from the Saddleback forum instead of cherry picking parts of his answers.

"Well, I think that whether you are looking at at it from a theological perspective or a scientific perspective, answering that question with specificity, you know, is above my pay grade."


The bottom line is that for people like "sharon" nothing the democratic candidates say is correct.


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Posted by meg
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Aug 26, 2008 at 3:36 pm



Ironically the Republican party is now the big tent.

Arnold, Ruddy,Ridge etc have all supported choice re abortion and they will speak at coming convention as they have in the past.

Re above my pay grade--Obama was asked when a baby begins to acquire human rights, as a lawyer and ex law professor and senator this question is easy for Obama to answer and if he cannot answer it then he is clearly not qualified for his present pay grade never mind that of POTUS.
My concern is that we know nothing about this guy, he has served 1/2 a term in the senate what we do know about his friends, rev wright, weathermen, felonious money men etc is not reassuring. Unfortunately Biden is tied to some of those same money men.

I am all in favor of change and hope, but not fraud and rope a dope

May the best man win


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Posted by Elect McCain????
a resident of another community
on Aug 26, 2008 at 4:33 pm

"I am all in favor of change and hope, but not fraud and rope a dope"--but you seem to support one of the Keating five, an admitted adulterer who has already had a number of shady associates leave his campaign
Interesting, how Obama/Biden can do not right, yet McCain is viewed as the pure, holier than thou hero. Could it be that Obama is the democrat and the republican is McCain and Republicans can do no wrong (as we have seen with Bush et al)


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Posted by Elect McCain!
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Aug 26, 2008 at 5:23 pm

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Posted by again...
a resident of Midtown
on Aug 26, 2008 at 5:44 pm

Dearest Elect McCain??:

Every time you post about how you don't hear anti-McCain stuff, I will remind you why.

There is plenty we are not happy with about McCain.

But...

McCain will win, not because we are so for him or because he is perfect, but because the idea of Obama's worldview, and policy beliefs as POTUS is so appalling. Not to mention the more we learn about his own personal judgement and ethics. This is an election of voting against someone, more than any in my life since McGovern.

The Dems have really done it again.

Too bad. And all this talk of racism being the reason his numbers are dropping is bull. The only thing we knew about him when he first announced was that he looked black. And yet his numbers were through the roof. So, if we are racist, it is the kind of racism that wants a black president. It is only as we have learned ever more about what it inside of him that his numbers are plummeting.

It is a pity. Racism is what lost Hilary the candidacy. At least she would have had a chance.

We await the next 4 years and hope we have better candidates.


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Posted by sally
a resident of Barron Park
on Aug 26, 2008 at 8:10 pm

Bill Clinton will not attend Obama's Invesco speech

Good for Bill. He has other things to do besides sit at Obama's feet.
He doesn't owe him anything. It's up to Obama to win. He has no one to blame but himself.


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Posted by Elect McCain!
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Aug 27, 2008 at 12:07 am

I see the former democratic front runner chose international orange (the color of the Golden Gate Bridge) for her speech. It is a distinctive color used to set things apart from their surroundings, similar to safety orange yet a bit more alarming.

It was good to see her channel the plagiarized ideas of Carl Marx. I think a word of caution would be appropriate considering any democrat seeking public office these days is communicating with the language of Communism.





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Posted by A Boomer
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Aug 27, 2008 at 6:29 am

I do not understand how one's point of view on the abortion question has any bearing on being President of the United States.

Last time I checked, the person occupying the Oval Office has other matters that require full attention all day long. I would be interested in how the candidates think around those matters, not what they think about the abortion question, which is not something that occupies much if any mind share.


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Posted by Anonymous
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Aug 27, 2008 at 4:38 pm

One of the first insights from Freakonomics is that legalizing abortion reduced crime. Unwanted pregnancy = unwanted children.

Web Link

The rebuttals from the WSJ and websites don't stand up to peer review.


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Posted by sam
a resident of Hoover School
on Aug 27, 2008 at 8:16 pm



Statistically abortions occur mainly in the black community, it is a form of genocide, as margaret singer wanted.


In some areas of China 160 males are born for every 100 females, they have a different agenda.


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Posted by Perspective
a resident of Midtown
on Aug 28, 2008 at 3:57 pm

Not Margaret Singer, Margaret Sanger, who started Planned Parenthood with the agenda to practice genocide on black people.

Peter SINGER is the "ethics" chair at Princeton who advocates infanticide up to one year old for "unwanted children". Just a very late-term abortion, by his reckoning. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]

Understandable name confusion.


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