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Obama fatigue; Is America beginning to weary of "Yes we can"?

Original post made by bike, College Terrace, on Aug 8, 2008


Interesting perspective from The Economist Web Link


Disraeli's gibe about Gladstone might well apply to Mr Obama—he is "inebriated with the exuberance of his own verbosity".

The junior senator from Illinois is strikingly self-obsessed even by the standards of politicians. He has already written two autobiographies. He seems to be happiest as a politician addressing huge crowds of adoring fans. His convention speech at Denver was always going to be an extraordinary moment, given that he will be delivering it on the 45th anniversary of Martin Luther King's "I have a dream" speech. But Mr Obama decided to move it to a local sports stadium that has room for 75,000.

There are worrying signs, for the Democrats, that Obama fatigue is beginning to set in. A Pew poll this week showed that 76% of respondents named Mr Obama as the candidate they had heard most about compared with 11% who named Mr McCain. But close to half (48%) of Pew's interviewees said that they had been hearing too much about Mr Obama—and 22% said that they have formed a less favourable opinion of him recently.

Issues, not orgasms

Mr Obama may be ill-served by his hallelujah corner in the press. The Pew survey suggests that the frenzy of media coverage of Mr Obama is creating a backlash. He may also be ill-served by some of his more over-the-top supporters who treat him like a rock star rather than a statesman. "Barack Obama is inspiring us like a desert lover, a Washington Valentino," Lili Haydn wrote in the Huffington Post. "Couples all over America are making love again and shouting 'Yes we can' as they climax."

Mr McCain also keeps saying that Mr Obama would rather lose a war in order to win a political campaign. This onslaught cleverly tries to turn Mr Obama's qualities—his youthful good looks and devoted supporters—into weaknesses.
It also sends a clear message to voters:

Mr McCain equals country first, Mr Obama equals Obama first.



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Posted by sarah
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Aug 8, 2008 at 10:38 am



Obama equals narcissism.

Anybody who can say with a straight face that his nomination will be seen by future generations as "the moment that the oceans began to recede and when our planet began to heal" is either widely deluded or full of himself.

Anyone who can veto the born alive bill denying protection to a child that survives a botched abortion is not just wrong, he's scary.


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Posted by haras
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Aug 8, 2008 at 10:57 am

Now surely a true conservative like you doesn't want these unwanted children in the welfare system. Did you think of that?


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Posted by Perspective
a resident of Downtown North
on Aug 8, 2008 at 11:01 am

Editor,

Why is this topic allowed when the topic of McCain paying for "grass-roots" online commentary is not? Why isn't "Astroturfing" a legitimate topic?

If we posted about FOX News mouthing the White House talking points would that be acceptable?

Perspective


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Posted by samuel
a resident of Stanford
on Aug 8, 2008 at 11:12 am



Thanks for the link.

The Economist is a highly respected source, it can hardly be called conservative or partisan at all.

The article is quite incisive, I now understand why Obama has decided to suddenly disappear on vacation.

I really find it amazing that his lead is so narrow, I think he made a strategic error in making the election about him rather than the issues.


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Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on Aug 8, 2008 at 11:29 am

I've been burned out on Bush's name, mug, and voice since one month after the 2000 election, and it's been only downhill from there. They brought him on way too much.

I've been on McCain burnout since he was one of the Keating Five during the S&L debacle, that other meltdown that cost the taxpayers bigtime.

Obama's refreshingly fresh in comparison.


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Posted by sidney
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Aug 8, 2008 at 12:04 pm


Obama has been smoking for 30 years.

Since Obama's mother died of cancer at age 52 (only a bit more than a half decade older than Barack Obama is right now), whereas McCain's mom is still vigorously alive today at age 96 — and since cancer is a malady where one's genetic heritage (inherited from one's parents) is an extremely important aspect of one's own susceptibility to the disease —

why isn't Obama's health an important question in this campaign?


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Posted by Perspective
a resident of Downtown North
on Aug 8, 2008 at 2:25 pm

Bike,

How many awards points did you get for this? It's right on message!

Web Link

Perspective


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Posted by sue
a resident of Downtown North
on Aug 8, 2008 at 2:38 pm



Edwards says "In the course of several campaigns, I started to believe that I was special and became increasingly egocentric and narcissistic. If you want to beat me up – feel free. You cannot beat me up more than I have already beaten up myself. I have been stripped bare and will now work with everything I have to help my family and others who need my help.

I have given a complete interview on this matter and having done so, will have nothing more to say. "

I guess obama is not the only egocentric narcissist then, not a good idea for him to run away on a sudden vacation when the S@@@@ hit the fan, he is now AWOL while Russia declares war and he gives McCain the stage to appear presidential in the crisis in Georgia


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Posted by the band played on
a resident of College Terrace
on Aug 8, 2008 at 3:09 pm



Does Obama Have Advice For The Georgians?

Will inflating their tires help push the Russians back?

Seriously, this is the sort of conflict that could go very big very fast --a phone in the White House ringing at 3 AM. It is a good moment for Obama to show us his grasp of world geopolitics.

Too bad his is on vacation


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Posted by Baron Parker
a resident of Barron Park
on Aug 8, 2008 at 3:56 pm

That's pretty funny, band and sue. Shoveling criticism on Obama for what's occurring in Georgia, like its his problem.

Last time I checked, we still have a sitting president, and this is his watch. Ask Mr. Bush if he's in the White House at 3 AM to take the call.

No wait, he's giving a pep talk to the Olympians.


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Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on Aug 8, 2008 at 4:08 pm

Good. If Bush stays with the Olympics he might not screw this thing up.


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Posted by pam
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Aug 8, 2008 at 4:44 pm

david brooks gets it right
Web Link

obama is over...the fall has just begun


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Posted by food for thought
a resident of another community
on Aug 8, 2008 at 5:03 pm

I find it humorous that someone actually thinks McCain is a "country first" candidate. Have you forgotten the Keating 5 criminal actions, his pro illegal immigration which is cost the USA taxpayers billions in welfare, food stamps, medicare, etc., his was for disarming law abiding citizens with more gun controls, against tax cuts, for NAFTA, CAFTA, GATT, etc. that have cost this country and unions many millions of manufacturing jobs and will be pushing for a North American Union if he becomes President, etc.? He is now lying about his true beliefs trying to get more people to vote for him. Heck, the guy doesn't even tell the truth about his Vietnam record - see www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com . McCain is a career politician with a terrible temper who talks about keeping us in Iraq for a 100 years and even possible attack Iran, etc. If Obama sticks to getting the U.S. soldiers out of Iraq quickly, he will have already beat anything McCain has or will propose as President.


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Posted by 888
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Aug 8, 2008 at 5:41 pm



I hope obama is not going to throw Edwards under the bus like he did his mother, pastor etc.

Edwards has not committed any crime, it seems like he was being blackmailed, he deserves obamas support and I hope he invites him to the Denver convention for a major address.


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Posted by Peter
a resident of another community
on Aug 8, 2008 at 8:51 pm

Paris nails that wrinkly old white guy: Web Link


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Posted by Peter
a resident of another community
on Aug 8, 2008 at 8:53 pm

And no, Americans aren't tired of Obams; McCain/Bush supporters are tired of Obama because they're afraid he'll win.


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Posted by pam
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Aug 8, 2008 at 9:37 pm

down, down, down barry goes, where he'll stop, nobody knows - yes we can, elect john mccain


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Posted by sally
a resident of Duveneck School
on Aug 8, 2008 at 10:58 pm



It is very unfortunate that Obama is on vacation at this time of international crisis, what are his aids thinking?

He has already throw his relatives under the bus, why is he saying he has to meet his grandma when he has already betrayed his dead mother

Sad but true, can we ever trust a politician again? I really believed Edwards and his family values, I feel betrayed


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Posted by jc
a resident of Ohlone School
on Aug 9, 2008 at 12:26 pm




Jay Leno earlier this week quipped that when the Democratic presidential aspirant was asked what he thought about being called arrogant, "well he said he was 'above having to answer that question.' "

Jon Stewart of "The Daily Show" recently joked that on his trip to Israel, the Democratic presidential aspirant "made a quick stop at the manger in Bethlehem where he was born."

David Letterman said that the senator from Illinois was so overconfident that he proposed changing the name of Oklahoma to "Oklabama."

Obama is now officially funny ha ha.


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Posted by mary
a resident of Walter Hays School
on Aug 9, 2008 at 6:29 pm


I am glad to see that obama is being treated as a mere mortal at last by comedians.

I do find the timing of his vacation and the Edwards plane crash suspicious. Whats next?


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Posted by bike
a resident of College Terrace
on Aug 9, 2008 at 9:35 pm



I suppose if we are thinking about turning our country over to the second Carter term — or the first McGovern — it shouldn't surprise anyone to see Russia go into its Afghanistan mode ... or Czechoslovakia ... or Hungary ... or -------- Georgia.


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Posted by bateson
a resident of Midtown
on Aug 9, 2008 at 11:19 pm

A federal investigation of Democratic Party leaders in Cuyahoga County could pose problems for Barack Obama's campaign in Ohio, party insiders and political analysts say.Web Link


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Posted by Logic?
a resident of Esther Clark Park
on Aug 9, 2008 at 11:52 pm

bike, funny, I thought Bush was still President (or is it Cheney?). Guess a second Bush term isn't much of a deterrent to Russia. Funny, I would think they'd be worried that we'd intervene in Georgia. Maybe we can send Cheney with his shotgun.


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Posted by pam
a resident of College Terrace
on Aug 10, 2008 at 11:05 am



David Letterman: Signs Barack Obama Is Overconfident.

Proposed bill to change Oklahoma to 'Oklabama.'

Offered Bush 20 bucks for the 'Mission Accomplished' banner.

Asked guy at Staples, 'Which chair will work best in an oval-shaped office?'

Having head measured for Mount Rushmore.

Offered McCain a job in gift shop at Obama Presidential Library.

Jay Leno: "Of course, Obama's supporters got him his usual birthday gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh."

Jay Leno: "See Barack Obama on the news? He's becoming a workout fanatic. He's at the gym, like, twice a day, sometimes three times a day at the gym, yeah, according to his staff. Well, he has to stay in shape to do those flip-flops."

Jay Leno: "Barack Obama back from his big European tour. Did you see him in Europe? People were cheering him, holding up signs, blowing him kisses. And that was just the American media covering the story."

Barack Obama was in Germany today and he did this speech and 100,000 people showed up. There were so many Germans shouting and screaming that France ... surrendered just in case.*


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Posted by utah
a resident of Ohlone School
on Aug 11, 2008 at 3:50 pm

Newly obtained documents prove that in 2003, Barack Obama, as chairman of an IL state Senate committee, voted down a bill to protect live-born survivors of abortion - even after the panel had amended the bill to contain verbatim language, copied from a federal bill passed by Congress without objection in 2002, explicitly foreclosing any impact on abortion.

Obama's legislative actions in 2003 - denying effective protection even to babies born alive during abortions - were contrary to the position taken on the same language by even the most liberal members of Congress.

The bill Obama killed was virtually identical to the federal bill that even NARAL ultimately did not oppose.


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Posted by pam
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Aug 11, 2008 at 8:48 pm

"The bill Obama killed was virtually identical to the federal bill that even NARAL ultimately did not oppose."

one of the 100 things that are going to finish obama. he's literally taken the very positions he vilified clinton for. not even your kool-aid cult can save you now...bye, barry....


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Posted by mary
a resident of Barron Park School
on Aug 11, 2008 at 10:30 pm

Why on earth is Obama calling for a UN Security Council resolution, essentially against Russia? Doesn't he know Russia has a veto?

Isn't it crazy to think that Russia will vote against its national policy? Does Obama understand this? Or is this just the sort of thing Democrats must say whenever something bad happens? What am I missing?


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Posted by pam
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Aug 12, 2008 at 1:15 am

duh, obama shuold read the european papers. maybe he should 'visit' russia for 'more experience'. the georgians attacked the russians, not the other way around. the europeans are snickering at bush and obama on this one. mccain looks presidential


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Posted by mike
a resident of College Terrace
on Aug 12, 2008 at 4:56 am



Presidential elections are decided by a series of important moments. This may be one of them.

Barack Obama put out another statement on the developments in Georgia and moved even closer to where John McCain was at the moment the crisis began. He read it, on vacation in Hawaii, standing in front of a tall brown fence wearing a casual blue jacket.

You could almost smell the cookout taking place next door.

The video of the statement is striking.Web Link Obama is reading it, and speaks haltingly.

It is oddly reminiscent of John McCain's performance in 2000, when he read a statement detailing his position -- more accurately, his campaign's position -- on the Confederate Flag. (McCain later said he didn't mean what he'd said.)

Just as McCain's reading of the statement was strange for someone known for speaking extemporaneously, Obama's hesitant and wooden delivery was odd for someone voters have mostly seen looking polished and delivering beautifully written speeches.


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Posted by The Real Mike
a resident of College Terrace
on Aug 12, 2008 at 2:20 pm

the REAL "Mike" of College Terrance NEVER supports national political candidates in this forum. "mike", above, is a fraud.


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Posted by Jim
a resident of South of Midtown
on Aug 12, 2008 at 2:47 pm

REAL "Mike",

No need to suppport a national candidate, but you DO have a responsibility to explain how your "new world" incentive plan can preserve national security. Please explain this in terms of the Russian attack on Georgia.


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Posted by the Real Mike
a resident of College Terrace
on Aug 12, 2008 at 2:50 pm

Jim, My "new world" incentive plan includes shipping the likes of you off to fight the foreign wars that you support. We'll start with you, and then add every politician and citizen who agrees with you. America should be fine, soon thereafter.


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