Town Square

Post a New Topic

Global Warming as Mass Neurosis. WSJ

Original post made by Jane, Professorville, on Jul 1, 2008

Web Link

Last week marked the 20th anniversary of the mass hysteria phenomenon known as global warming. Much of the science has since been discredited. Now it's time for political scientists, theologians and psychiatrists to weigh in.

What, discredited? Thousands of scientists insist otherwise, none more noisily than NASA's Jim Hansen, who first banged the gong with his June 23, 1988, congressional testimony (delivered with all the modesty of "99% confidence").


But mother nature has opinions of her own. NASA now begrudgingly confirms that the hottest year on record in the continental 48 was not 1998, as previously believed, but 1934, and that six of the 10 hottest years since 1880 antedate 1954.
Data from 3,000 scientific robots in the world's oceans show there has been slight cooling in the past five years, never mind that "80% to 90% of global warming involves heating up ocean waters," according to a report by NPR's Richard Harris.

Socialism may have failed as an economic theory, but global warming alarmism, with its dire warnings about the consequences of industry and consumerism, is equally a rebuke to capitalism.

Take just about any other discredited leftist nostrum of yore – population control, higher taxes, a vast new regulatory regime, global economic redistribution, an enhanced role for the United Nations – and global warming provides a justification. One wonders what the left would make of a scientific "consensus" warning that some looming environmental crisis could only be averted if every college-educated woman bore six children: Thumbs to "patriarchal" science; curtains to the species.

Comments (31)

 +   Like this comment
Posted by sam
a resident of College Terrace
on Jul 1, 2008 at 3:04 pm



If the Gaia worshipers merely confined themselves to preaching their gospel and imploring all (except their chief priests, of course) to "live right" and give up their modern comforts in order to save the Earth I would only shake my head at their pitiful, gullible lives. But they are trying to force me to buy into their bogus religion through the force of law and with higher prices for "green" stuff. That's where I draw the line.

Scientology is a scam cult, but no one is threatening me with Thetan taxes to offset my own personal demons.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Rudy
a resident of Barron Park
on Jul 1, 2008 at 3:15 pm

The WSJ piece is typical capitalist propaganda. What would you expect from these shills for Exxon?!

In fact as anyone who saw An Inconvenient Truth knows, the world is in dire danger, and it's time we took more drastic action to stop the emissions that are imperiling the survival of the earth.

For us here in the US, where we're the worst global warming polluters of all, that means drastic and mandatory cut back in our extravagant lifestyles.

Those of you heating and cooling your 3000 square foot houses will have to be reigned in. Those of you who think nothing of hopping in one of your 3 cars will have to be grounded. Those of you who hop on a plane for a European vacation every year will have to relearn the joys of home cooking. Those of you who think you deserve a hot shower every day will have to be forced to sweat (and stink) a little.

Sounds pretty drastic to us spoiled Americans, I know. But as Barak Obama says, "We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK."

America is killing the world, and the world isn't going to take it anymore.

Stop Climate Change NOW!


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 1, 2008 at 3:24 pm


I remember the absolute furor among the left when Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper called the Kyoto accord a "socialist scheme" designed to suck money out of rich countries.
Climate change hasn't been about legitimate science for decades, and whenever someone points this out, they are castigated and ridiculed.

Clearly, so-called "environmentalism" has been the biggest hoax in human history, the greatest recorded case of mass insanity, and the greatest threat to democracy and freedom that America has ever faced, in part because of political correctness, which is by design, an inhibitor of the free flow of information, and the mass think of the left and the lefts' blind religious like fervor (ironically, from a group peopled mostly by atheists and agnostics who ridicule the unabashed faith of others in God.)


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Rudy
a resident of Barron Park
on Jul 1, 2008 at 3:33 pm

Climate change is real. Environmentalism is no hoax.

Do you think Obama would be FAR ahead in the polls if the American people did not realize the seriousness of the global warming problem, and the necessity of taking emergency measures to fight it?

The Exxon Global Warming deniers have had their cover blown. As Obama lets us know, the rest of the world won't stand by while America kills it slowly. Obama is favored by all the rest of the countries in the world for a reason.

Save the world. Vote Obama!


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Old propaganda
a resident of Southgate
on Jul 1, 2008 at 3:45 pm

Climate change has as much credibility as Paul Erhlich.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by julie
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 1, 2008 at 3:56 pm



From the WSJ

And surely it is in keeping with this essentially religious outlook that the "solutions" chiefly offered to global warming involve radical changes to personal behavior, all of them with an ascetic, virtue-centric bent: drive less, buy less, walk lightly upon the earth and so on.
A light carbon footprint has become the 21st-century equivalent of sexual abstinence.

Finally, there is a psychological explanation.
Listen carefully to the global warming alarmists, and the main theme that emerges is that what the developed world needs is a large dose of penance.
What's remarkable is the extent to which penance sells among a mostly secular audience. What is there to be penitent about?

As it turns out, a lot, at least if you're inclined to believe that our successes are undeserved and that prosperity is morally suspect. In this view, global warming is nature's great comeuppance, affirming as nothing else our guilty conscience for our worldly success.

In "The Varieties of Religious Experience," William James distinguishes between healthy, life-affirming religion and the monastically inclined, "morbid-minded" religion of the sick-souled. Global warming is sick-souled religion.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by sp
a resident of College Terrace
on Jul 1, 2008 at 4:12 pm



obama smokes tobacco, that is a more imminent threat to the health of his family and his life expectancy than the fraud of global warming.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Noble
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jul 1, 2008 at 4:18 pm

"obama smokes tobacco"

Don't criticize until you've walked in the other person's shoes. If you were a member of an oppressed class as is Obama, you would probably need a means of relieving the stress too.

I don't smoke but I can forgive Obama this transgression since he's right on everything else - especially climate change and global warming.

Having a smoker in charge is a small price to pay for getting Bush out of the white house and having someone there who will stop climate change, save the earth, and start to redeem America for its racist past.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by sp
a resident of College Terrace
on Jul 1, 2008 at 4:26 pm



Actually obamas smoking is an issue, it has been a life long habit to this point so he has definitely suffered permanent health damage.

Take together with the fact that his mother die of cancer at age 51yrs,
his father died even younger, the genetics and his smoking do not look good for his life expectancy

McCain may well outlive him by actuarial statistics.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Oppression Comes in Many Forms
a resident of Greenmeadow
on Jul 1, 2008 at 4:27 pm

"If you were a member of an oppressed class as is Obama, you would probably need a means of relieving the stress too."

Agree! Who among us could stand the oppression faced by Harvard Law grads, particularly those who were elected editor of the Harvard Law Review? It would drive anyone to smoking!


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Noble
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jul 1, 2008 at 4:29 pm

Even if he were to die in office it would be as a martyr, and he would have served his purpose of saving and redeeming the world. It's not how long one lives, it's what one does while alive that makes the difference.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 1, 2008 at 4:32 pm

Is this true, does he smoke?

I can't see him standing outside the front door of the White House for a smoke every time the going gets tough. I hope he doesn't start disobeying the rules and plans to smoke inside just because it is his home.

Seriously, do we want a smoking president? He will never be taken seriously abroad if he does, at least by any health minded nation.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Chimney
a resident of Meadow Park
on Jul 1, 2008 at 4:37 pm

Is this true, does he smoke?

Yep. Sad but true: he admits it. Web Link


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Ha
a resident of Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on Jul 1, 2008 at 4:40 pm

You are kidding, right? Health minded nation?? Like which one? People in most other countries are less self-righteous than we are (not hard) and could care less if somebody lights up now and then. Did they diss Clinton cause he overate and diddled with the intern?


 +   Like this comment
Posted by sp
a resident of College Terrace
on Jul 1, 2008 at 4:43 pm



Dying as a martyr to the tobacco addiction is not very heroic, but it would be in the tradition of his father who was addicted to drink.

If obama picks al gore as his VP it would be ironic, al family made their fortune from tobacco and al supported subsidies to tobacco farmers for a long long time despite the fact that smoking kills 450,000 Americans every year.

How many does global warming kill---- 0


 +   Like this comment
Posted by jr
a resident of Professorville
on Jul 1, 2008 at 4:52 pm

A drunk and a bigot - what the US Presidential hopeful HASN'T said about his father...Web Link

"Yet an investigation by The Mail on Sunday has revealed that, for all Mr Obama's reputation for straight talking and the compelling narrative of his recollections, they are largely myth.

We have discovered that his father was not just a deeply flawed individual but an abusive bigamist and an egomaniac, whose life was ruined not by racism or corruption but his own weaknesses.

A family friend said: "He is haunted by his father's failures. He grew up thinking of his father as a brilliant intellectual and pioneer of African independence only to learn that in Western terms he was basically a drunken lecher."

This ugly truth, say friends, has made Mr Obama ruthlessly determined to use every weapon that he has to succeed, including the glossily edited version of his father's story.

"At the end of the day Barack wants the story to help his political cause, so perhaps he couldn't afford to be too honest," said Ochieng.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Rudy
a resident of Barron Park
on Jul 1, 2008 at 4:54 pm

"A drunk and a bigot - what the US Presidential hopeful HASN'T said about his father...Web Link"

More Exxon lies.

Save the Earth. Elect Obama!


 +   Like this comment
Posted by paul h
a resident of Ohlone School
on Jul 1, 2008 at 5:02 pm


The nut does not fall far from the tree.

I guess Obama is just good at creative reframing

EG
Obama's Selma speech offers a very confused chronology of both the Kenya student program and the civil rights movement.
Relating the story of how his parents met, Obama said: "There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge.
So they got together and Barack Obama Junior was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama."

After bloggers pointed out that the Selma bridge protest occurred four years after Obama's birth, a spokesman explained that the senator was referring to the civil rights movement in general, rather than any one event.

Obama Sr. never quite lived up to his enormous potential. He achieved his dream of studying at Harvard after graduating from the University of Hawaii. He divorced Dunham in 1963 and married another woman.

He returned to Kenya and became a close aide to Mboya, a fellow Luo tribesman, at the Ministry of Economic Development.
According to his old "drinking buddy" Ochieng, he antagonized other officials with his "boasting," was "excessively fond of Scotch" and ended up in poverty "without a job." He got into frequent car accidents, one of which led to the amputation of both his legs. He was killed in another car accident, in 1982, at the age of 46.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by pam
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Jul 2, 2008 at 12:05 am

a few more obama problems
Web Link


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Walter E. Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 2, 2008 at 8:18 am

How interesting that all the threats to humanity since the flood have had one thing in common - the need for us sinners to hand our lives to God [and his agents] and stop considering our own needs and desires.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Anonymous
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 2, 2008 at 10:18 am

When the sad reign of this administration ends, it's time to evaluate its actions in world courts. The backers of the denial of climate change should be charged with crimes against humanity. If the party of hate and intolerance prevents these proceedings in the U.S., let other countries hold them accountable.




 +   Like this comment
Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on Jul 2, 2008 at 10:35 am

Typical Murdoch


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Rudy
a resident of Barron Park
on Jul 2, 2008 at 11:20 am

Anonymous is right on.

I have no doubt that Obama will be more receptive to world government institutions wherein the criminality of the past 8 years can be addressed in a neutral fashion.

The deniers at Exxon and other oil companies that have prevented action on climate change should be the first to be hauled before international courts. Those in the administration who are their enablers should be second.

Obama will redeem us by opening up to world bodies that the Bushies have ignored.

We have very little time to save the world. We should be thankful for Obama.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by ten18
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 2, 2008 at 3:25 pm

The comments by Rudy and Anonymous tend to support the premise of this article, eh? Albeit with a bit of Bush Derangement Syndrome. . .


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Walter E. Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 2, 2008 at 3:33 pm

When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know."
Obama had antecedents.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by dave
a resident of Downtown North
on Jul 8, 2008 at 9:27 pm

What Jane omits is that the data since 1880 shows that the temperature of the earth has risen one degree C. Since it takes one calorie to raise one gram of water one degree C, it takes a tremendous amount of energy to raise the entire earth's temperature one degree C. The earth is receiving about the same amount of sun energy over the past 120 years, but not radiating as much energy/heat out. The most probable cause is the increase in atmospheric gases which trap the energy, reflect it back and heat the earth.

It's poor science to cherry pick short periods of time to support an argument. To compare one unit of time to another use the broadest time interval available before drawing conclusions.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Empty WSJ Commentary For Empty WSJ Minds
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 8, 2008 at 11:47 pm

The piece was written by a "Bret Stephens" - another "commentator" with zero scientific background (his expertise is on Israeli politics).

I am so impressed that you can gag me with a spoon!

NEXT!


 +   Like this comment
Posted by midtown family
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 10, 2008 at 11:46 pm

Hard to believe there are still people delusional enough to think our critically ill environment is somekind of a leftist hoax. Guess Jane & her ilk think the Earth is flat, too.
And hey, what did Charles Darwin ever really prove, either? If these folks are the product of Palo Alto schools, then maybe PAUSD isn't doing such a good job.........


 +   Like this comment
Posted by again?
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 11, 2008 at 7:01 am

What is critically ill is the spiritually bereft population which has to believe in SOMETHING, and if they don't, they fall for anything.

In this case, it is the religion of Al Gore, so that those who believe can be like any other fundamentalist..self-righteous, trying to force it by hook or by crook on non-believers, judgemental, self-penitential by doing penitential activities which cause suffering for themselves in the name of redemption ( driving without air conditioning, for example, though about to pass out from the heat,

etc.

Climate change is not under argument here. Never has been. EVERY educated person understands the world has always changed climates, and always will. The question is..how much is because of us?

The answer is...none. At least, not from CO2. Maybe there is something else we are doing, but so far we can't find any reason to think that WE are doing something to afffect our climate.

To the guy who really believes we actually know what the world's atmospheric temperature was in 1880...are you joking?

To those who really want to believe..that is fine. Whatever makes you feel better. Just don't force your beliefs on me. Live and let live. You can live how you wish, I don't care. Many people have died to defend your right to live as you wish. But, I can live as I wish also.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Obasms
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 11, 2008 at 7:15 am

As for Obama...you Obama believers can have your Obasms all you want. Again, I don't care.

You can even go take over a state, probably this one, and live as Obama commands..

1)eat less,
2)no air conditioning, minimal heating,
3)walk or bike everywhere,
4)become bilingual in Spanish-English,
5) keep your borders open to anyone who wants to cross over, while you are at it, be sure to push for nobody being allowed to lock their front doors so that anyone who wants to come into your house to stay can do so
6) abort up until the day before the due date,
7)don't provide health care to the babies who accidentally survive the abortion,
8)DO provide health care to everyone else, making sure it is run by the same wonderful govt agencies who have brought us our failing education, social security, Medicaid, Medicare, and welfare systems ( gosh, I want these people to decide if I need that appendectome or not!!)
9)give up all your self-defense weapons and rely on 911 whenever you are threatened,
10)tax "the rich" all you want and give it to "the poor", until everyone is equally poor because work simply isn't worth it anymore
11)No military allowed.
12)All police are guilty until proven innocent.
13)No State-wide defense system.
14)The most popular churches would be the ones that preach anti-State rhetoric, and blame the woes of the present on history from 2 generations ago. No responsibility to get up and go to school and go to work. No, better to sit around and blame dead people.

Have fun, the rest of us will watch your state turn into a third world country, ripe for takeover.


Let me know which State you want to take over, so I avoid it, unless I want something free.


 +   Like this comment
Posted by Rudy
a resident of Barron Park
on Jul 11, 2008 at 4:30 pm

Obasms' cynical defeatism is exactly what Mr. Obama in his hope and change campaign warns against continuing.

Sure there are certain things some us will have to sacrifice for the common good when Barack is elected.

-If we can save the world by turning off our air conditioners and cutting back on our spoiled life-styles as Barack wants, that is something most Americans will do gladly.

-If we allow the dispossessed and oppressed of the world to share our bounty here in the US - Barack's policies exactly, then the higher purpose of protecting all of the world's poor will be served.

-If there must be a little less choice in our health care decisions in order to give care to the less fortunate, who but the most heartless would complain? Barack will SAVE our health and our lives!

-Does anyone really want to go back to the dark ages of back alley abortions? Barack certainly does not.

-Does anyone really object to Barack's plan to rid the world of the scourage of handguns? If we have to register our guns, like most of the world, and make them aviable only to verified legitimate owners, what is wrong with that?

-Who could possibly disagree with Barack's plan to tax the rich their fair share except the truly selfish rich themselves?!

-We've seen what Bush's military adventurism had done. Who could object to Barack's plan to scale back our military forces and make peace with those who, because of Bush, consider us their enemy?!

-We've seen enough of religion involvement in government. It's time to let saner voices run policy in our country.

Go Obama!


Don't miss out on the discussion!
Sign up to be notified of new comments on this topic.

Email:


Post a comment

Posting an item on Town Square is simple and requires no registration. Just complete this form and hit "submit" and your topic will appear online. Please be respectful and truthful in your postings so Town Square will continue to be a thoughtful gathering place for sharing community information and opinion. All postings are subject to our TERMS OF USE, and may be deleted if deemed inappropriate by our staff.

We prefer that you use your real name, but you may use any "member" name you wish.

Name: *

Select your neighborhood or school community: * Not sure?

Comment: *

Verification code: *
Enter the verification code exactly as shown, using capital and lowercase letters, in the multi-colored box.

*Required Fields

I Told My Mom She's Dying
By Chandrama Anderson | 11 comments | 2,433 views

Easy Living
By Sally Torbey | 11 comments | 2,416 views

Grab a Bowl of Heaven soon in Mountain View
By Elena Kadvany | 0 comments | 1,713 views

Quick Check List for UC Applications
By John Raftrey and Lori McCormick | 0 comments | 1,148 views

Campaign Endorsements: Behind the Curtain
By Douglas Moran | 3 comments | 731 views