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New 88 bus to disenfranchise some disabled

Original post made on Jun 20, 2008

Disabled bus users remain adversely affected by cuts in VTA 88 service, despite a new community bus and some restoration of the previously cut route.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, June 20, 2008, 12:00 AM

Comments (7)

Posted by anonymouse, a resident of another community
on Jun 20, 2008 at 11:22 am

Nice editorial on the VTA's bus service. What's it doing in the news section?

Posted by Walk don't ride, a resident of South of Midtown
on Jun 20, 2008 at 1:12 pm

I have sympathy for the VTA I see the 88 bus in many locations on my walks around south Palo Alto and it is nearly always empty.

As a resident of Santa Clara I'm paying taxes that support this bus which never seems to have any passengers. End it now before we waste anymore money on this government supported VTA bus line.

Posted by Mike, a resident of College Terrace
on Jun 20, 2008 at 2:05 pm

The fact that some of these VTA buses are empty has little to do with market demand; it's a *public policy failure*. We have a discombobulated series of public transport groups, populated by unpaid politicians who don't know the first thing about moving people around, efficiently. There's literal political graft in the system, and too many people collecting a paycheck at the administrative level who are not listened to.

Mass transport is poorly incentivized, too costly, inconvenient (in terms of hours and location access), poorly coordinated (with other mass transport systems), poorly funded, and so on. It's a national disgrace.

Posted by Resident, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 20, 2008 at 2:21 pm


The other poorly you omit to mention is poor advertised and poorly available to find information.

There is very little help for someone who waits at a bus stop to know when the bus will come or where it will take you and if you get off at Stanford or San Antonio, or somewhere there is no way of finding where to get the bus for the return journey. The schedules are hard to find, the web site is no use, the pay scheme is out of order (two rides cost two fares even if you are transferring from one route to another to get to your destination). VTA needs to become a transport facility aligned with all the other transport facilities across the Bay area and they need to get one ticket options, family tickets for offpeak travel, maps at destinations and other user friendly services that make people want to use public transport rather than have to.

Posted by JFP, a resident of Midtown
on Jun 21, 2008 at 6:53 pm

Once school is back in, there will be plenty of students on the 88, if they publicize that it is back.

Posted by Parent, a resident of Palo Verde
on Jun 22, 2008 at 10:35 am

Summer school starts tomorrow at Gunn? Will there be a bus service?

Posted by Parent, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 24, 2008 at 9:59 am

No bus service for summer school.

It seems that even the VTA route planner doesn't know when the 88 operates as using today's date and asking for route and times to get to Gunn for summer school showed the Louis Road service working.

This is particularly difficult as Gunn is serving both its own and Paly students from the other side of town for summer school so the typical summer student lives further away from Gunn than the regular school year.


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