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US Senator, Lieberman, Asks For Al-Qaeda Content To Be Removed From YouTube

Original post made by joel, Charleston Gardens, on May 20, 2008

US Senator, Joe Lieberman, asked Google's Eric Schmidt to remove terrorist videos, including those of Al-Qaeda, to be removed from YouTube. In response, Google has removed some of these videos.Web Link

Lieberman's approach can be roughly described as an "anti-virus" strategy. The world functions under a tacit kind of operating system. We know it as a system of laws, freedom of navigation, etc. Just a virus uses the resources of an operating system it aims to subvert against itself, terrorism can be said to use the modern communications, transportation and legal systems of the civilization it wants to destroy in order to empower itself.

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Posted by cnt
a resident of Stanford
on May 20, 2008 at 4:09 pm



It's interesting to me that youtube has decided remove these videos when there has been considerable press on anti-Islamic films being present on youtube and there has not been any effort to remove them, despite the fact they contain "hate speech".

My prime example is he Geert Wilders film "Fitna" which is available on youtube right now which has both received a great deal of press and outrage from Muslims across the world.
This film is chock full of anti-Islamic hate speech and yet because it agrees with the Western mentality of labeling Muslims as terrorists, it persists on youtube.
While my personal belief is that youtube should not remove Islamic terrorist organization videos or "Fitna" just based on the fact they contain hate speech because it threatens the free exchange of ideas, I would appreciate it if youtube was consistent in their censorship philosophies.

I would hope that youtube and google don't favor the opinions of a US senator over its users who have made it what it is today.


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Posted by sam
a resident of Midtown
on May 20, 2008 at 4:18 pm



Meanwhile across the pond in UKWeb Link

"A massive government database holding details of every phone call, e-mail and time spent on the internet by the public is being planned as part of the fight against crime and terrorism.
Internet service providers (ISPs) and telecoms companies would hand over the records to the Home Office under plans put forward by officials.
The proposal has emerged as part of plans to implement an EU directive developed after the July 7 bombings to bring uniformity of record-keeping.
Since last October telecoms companies have been required to keep records of phone calls and text messages for 12 months.
That requirement is to be extended to internet, e-mail and voice-over-internet use and included in a Communications Data Bill.


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Posted by qq
a resident of Barron Park
on May 20, 2008 at 7:37 pm

The most interesting post yesterday on the discussion of the UK database was a link to a documentary on Google Video called 'The Trap'.


Web Link

Wikipedia Entry on 'The Trap' by Adam Curtis.
Web Link


Part 1 Web Link

Part 2 Web Link

Part 3 Web Link

Awesome vid. Enjoy.

qq


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Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on May 21, 2008 at 9:56 am

"terrorism can be said to use the modern communications, transportation and legal systems of the civilization it wants to destroy in order to empower itself."

Same old classic paranoia warmed over. Apparently Lieberman doesn't believe our Western institutions are strong enough to beat this threat, so we got to put up a Silicon Curtain.


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Posted by Kate
a resident of Crescent Park
on May 21, 2008 at 10:22 am

Get videos depicting the murder of American soldiers off the internet. Haul Google and YouTube into court to explain why they should not be held accountable for displaying this kind of trash. There are limits to free speech and this one clearly crosses the line unless you're into watching someone being murdered.


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Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on May 21, 2008 at 10:24 am

"Haul Google and YouTube into court to explain why they should not be held accountable for displaying this kind of trash."

So sue 'em, Kate.


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Posted by Dr. Ferragamo
a resident of Stanford
on May 21, 2008 at 2:15 pm


Google gives Lieberman the beat-down:

Web Link

"Senator Lieberman stated his belief, in a letter sent today, that all videos mentioning or featuring these groups should be removed from YouTube -- even legal nonviolent or non-hate speech videos. While we respect and understand his views, YouTube encourages free speech and defends everyone's right to express unpopular points of view. We believe that YouTube is a richer and more relevant platform for users precisely because it hosts a diverse range of views, and rather than stifle debate we allow our users to view all acceptable content and make up their own minds. Of course, users are always free to express their disagreement with a particular video on the site, by leaving comments or their own response video. That debate is healthy."


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Posted by joel
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on May 21, 2008 at 2:23 pm



Actually they should leave all those videos up.

We have the ability to identify who is visiting those sites and who is contributing to to them.

We can use social network software to map the peolple and networks involved and monitor their transactions by phone, email etc.

I am sure this is already being done through Echelon etc

I certainly hope so


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Posted by Walter E. Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on May 21, 2008 at 3:07 pm

How long would a dramatic reading of "Satanic Verses" stay up?


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Posted by jd
a resident of Community Center
on May 21, 2008 at 6:09 pm

Just wait until the next terrorist attack on Americans anywhere in the world!
If those terrorists have been specifically recruited or encouraged or advised by way of videos posted on Youtube, Google may be in big trouble.
In my opinion Google, having been warned of the risk, and refusing requests to remove them, may be in a heap of legal trouble for billions of dollars in possible civil damages and criminal prosecution. (just my opinion - the courts will decide their culpability, if any!)


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