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Truth or Fiction from Fox News

Original post made by a, Adobe-Meadow, on May 9, 2008

The Myanmar cyclone. The earthquake off the coast of Japan. The Chilean volcano. Has Earth gone bonkers?

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Posted by Danny
a resident of Crescent Park
on May 9, 2008 at 10:51 am

Oh yeah, Fox News is SUCH a trustworthy news source. I find that biased organization to be about as honest and honorable as an Enron executive.

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Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on May 9, 2008 at 12:30 pm

The earth IS bonkers, and always has been. Ask any dinosaur. The key is "recorded disasters" - we record all of them now (and elect some, like W - but I digress). Plus, our ever-expanding population puts ever more people in the way of each.

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Posted by Danny
a resident of Crescent Park
on May 9, 2008 at 1:25 pm

You nailed it on the head Paul. It's the constantly increasing population that's putting us all in danger. More people = fewer and fewer resources = global repurcusions.

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Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on May 9, 2008 at 1:40 pm


That is what Paul Ehrlich said. He was wrong. If you recall, he lost the bet with Julian Simon, who said that humans will innovate, and continue to advance.

The luddites continue to lose the bet. The best way to stablizie the world population is to promote free market development. Prosperous populations have fewer children.

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Posted by Danny
a resident of Crescent Park
on May 9, 2008 at 3:24 pm

Gary: I hear you, but the population will have to reach a critical mass at some point. The planet does not grow larger, yet the population grows larger every day, and in all likelihood will continue to do so. A shoulder-to-shoulder population is bound to effect the planet's resources. Check out the documentary "The 11th Hour" for a better explanation of resources vs. population (and especially the effect striking oil had on the population boom).

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Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on May 9, 2008 at 4:12 pm


The way to population stablilization, even a reduction in world population, is to put a television in each house in the world. By this, obviously, I mean to make people prosperous, so that they will not feel it necessary to have, on average, more than two kids per family.

The way to make poverty go away is to have free trade and capitalism This approach is working wonders in India and China, as we speak. It can and should spread around the planet. The wrong way to do it is socialism, becasue command economies just end up consolidating power...Burma is just the most recent example, and one must not forget the 100 million people murdered in the 20th century under that banner (the biggest holocaust/hate crime of the century)

There are enough resources on this planet to make all of the population prosperous. We would all be better off, if we thought that way. The alternative, luddite/socilaist thinking, will just lead to more mass murder, and failure.

The immediate issue is energy. Prosperity will only come from maximum production of energy. If the issue is carbon footprint, then nuclear MUST be produced, at a large scale. Same for solar, etc.

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Posted by a
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on May 10, 2008 at 6:42 pm

Interesting how Fox News take the polar opposite view from Al Gore. I believe Al Gore. Fox News is just that, a fox guarding the chickens....something not to be trusted.

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Posted by unintended humor and reality check
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on May 11, 2008 at 2:35 pm

a, if I thought from your posts you had done your play on words on purpose, I would be impressed.

Gary, you are right on. The more educated and prosperous the parents, the fewer kids they have.

The best thing for the planet in all ways is to increase the prosperity of the whole world.

The best path to prosperity is the American way.

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Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on May 12, 2008 at 11:41 am

"The best path to prosperity is the American way."

I agree, and all patriotic Americans hope we get back to the American Way after the next election. We have seen the peace, prosperity, and stability of the NeoCon Way in Bush's Iraq.

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Posted by same ol' response to the same ol' ignorance
a resident of Midtown
on May 12, 2008 at 12:07 pm

Uhh. A little reality, again...

How many attacks on Americans during the Clinton years around the world? When did the 9/11 bombers enter America and begin the final phase of their plans? What is the spending power of the lowest 20% today compared to any of the Clinton years? What percent of the Federal budget do the top 25% earners in America pay compared to the Clinton years? What is the increase in real average earnings compared to the best Clinton year? How many more people have the right to vote in the world now compared to the Clinton years, and who do these people thank for that hard earned right? How much more in real dollars do the Feds collect in taxes every year now than they did in any of the Clinton years, even the most prosperous? Which country was in a REAL recession in the last year of Clinton's presidency, not a FEAR of an incoming recession?

Ok, when you get the answers to those questions, come back and tell me how horrible the "neocon way is"..BTW, Bush is not a Neocon. Revealing your ignorance again.

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Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on May 12, 2008 at 12:16 pm

Bush not a NeoCon? You mean he turned his coat? Again? What kind of Con is he running now?

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