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Original post made by Jag Singh, Los Altos, on Mar 28, 2008

Both Senators McCain and Clinton have recently exposed themselves to public ridicule. Last week McCain falsely accused Iran of training al-Qaeda. McCain quickly corrected his faux pas after (his running mate?) Senator Lieberman whispered in his ear that al-Qaeda was Sunni and Iran predominately Shiite. McCain then echoed Bush's fantasy that the situation in Iraq has 'dramatically improved' ignoring the grim reality of renewed violence prompting the White House to plead for more help from the UK government. McCain's visit to Iraq can hardly be described as a casual visit to Baghdad. Security was extremely tight with overhead helicopters and large close presence of US ground troops. Many news commentators were critical of the clear abuse of taxpayer's funds to advance McCain's presidential aspirations. Meanwhile Senator Clinton regaled her supporters with a fabricated tale of dodging sniper fire on a trip to Bosnia in 1996 as first lady. Contrary to her self-serving claim, a CBS video posted on YouTube showed Clinton and her daughter Chelsea walking leasurely across the tarmac smiling and waving, stopping to shake hands with the Bosnia's acting president and greeting an eight year old girl.. Clinton admitted she misspoke when challenged claiming a 'lack of sleep' was responsible for her memory lapse. Sadly, the sleazy nature of her campaign and lack of credibility make her an extremely poor choice for the new occupant of the White House. On the other hand, Barack Obama, 'a white man with a black father' would bring much needed integrity and help clear the the eight year of lingering stench from the 'people's house.'

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Posted by benjamin
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Mar 28, 2008 at 1:40 pm



Obama has a Jewish problem, whether or not it's merely guilt by association is irrelevant.

Politics is about perception, and the perception is that Obama's one step removed from the Nation of Islam.

If he wants to get the anti-Semitic stench of Trinity United off his campaign, it's going to take more than pretty speeches.

Barack Obama = Chauncey Gardener?

BTW he is also in the pocket of the Nuclear Power Industry, people are trying to put lipstick on this pig, but it will not fly




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Posted by sue mom
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Mar 28, 2008 at 1:53 pm




A very knowledgeable friend told me the other day that anyone who was surprised at Rev Wright's words has simply not been involved in a black church.

This kind of race baiting goes on all the time in black liberation theology churches.

Obama not only supported it with his attendance and dollars but also dragged his daughter to listen to this hatefull racist filth.

I think most Americans these days are fair- minded. They sincerely do not want anyone held back because of race.

However they also do not feel someone should be promoted simply because of race.

So to hear this KKK type language coming from a black "religious leader" is disillusioning.
I'm glad it's come out. Maybe this has been the perpetual poison, as much as anything.

We need to have an honest conversation about race starting with the astronomical out of wedlock birth rate and crime rate in the black community.




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Posted by Greg
a resident of Southgate
on Mar 28, 2008 at 3:01 pm

"BTW he is also in the pocket of the Nuclear Power Industry"

And what is wrong with that? It seems that Barack understands the value of nuclear power. That puts him ahead of the majority of both his supporters and critics. In fact, it proves his intelligence.


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Posted by That's the Reality
a resident of another community
on Mar 28, 2008 at 3:12 pm

Polls show McCain would beat both Hilliary Clinton and Obama if the election were held today. Eight more years of the Iraq war and Trillions of Dollars in debt.


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Posted by benjamin
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Mar 28, 2008 at 3:42 pm



If you want to see where the Nation of Islam and their fellow travelers leads see the movie Fitna here Web Link

and then ask yourself -is this just words?



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Posted by Danny
a resident of Crescent Park
on Mar 28, 2008 at 4:09 pm

That's the Reality: If you look at the voter turnout numbers it's obvious that despite what the polls say there is VERY little chance that McCain could beat Obama or Clinton. The voting numbers (primaries) out of every single state were about 3-1 (at least) in favor of the Democratic candidate. Even in supposed "red" states both Clinton and Obama earned many, many more votes than the top vote-getting Repub. candidate.

The voters -- especially Democrats and Independents who are incredibly weary of the Bush regime and the status quo McCain hopes to continue -- will turn out in force in November.


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Posted by june
a resident of Palo Verde
on Mar 28, 2008 at 4:23 pm



In his autobiographical book "Dreams from My Father," Barack Obama paints a heroic picture of his father as having emerged from a poor Kenyan village, where he was nothing more than a simple goat herder, to become a Harvard-educated economist, destined to return to Africa to fulfill his promise.

Unfortunately, the reality is much bleaker than the tale Obama tells in his book.

In truth, Barack Obama senior, Obama's father, was a polygamist who had already abandoned one wife and child in Africa when he met Obama's mother in Hawaii.

After being educated at Harvard, Obama senior returned to Africa, abandoning Obama and his mother, to live the life of a chronic alcoholic who ultimately killed himself in his second drink-induced car accident, while driving drunk on the streets of Nairobi.

"for all Mr. Obama's reputation for straight talking and the compelling narrative of his recollections, they are largely myth."

Web Link



What else is obama deceiving us about ?





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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 29, 2008 at 2:28 pm

Picky, picky, picky.


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Posted by perspective
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 29, 2008 at 3:46 pm

doesn't matter, it is just a matter of how quickly we travel further left, since all 3 are leftists.


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Posted by pam
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Mar 29, 2008 at 5:04 pm

you can't get further right than a murdering fascist like bush


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Posted by perspective
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 30, 2008 at 7:23 am

pam, if you believe that Bush is a "murdering fascist", and you are a supporter of Hillary, then you have a real shock in store. If he is, so is she..she vote in the Iraq war, she proudly crowed her support when Saddam was busted, and she has very carefully avoided saying when she will "pull out of" Iraq. In other words, as much as I despise her, at least she isn't promising to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

BTW, try reading ANY history and learn what fascism/communism is ( flip sides of the same coin).
Both have massacred over 100,000,000 people in the 1900s alone. Saddam alone was responsible for over 1,000,000 of them ( a true fascist, by the way). Better yet, travel to any country that is or has just been released from fascism or communism...then come home and kiss the ground you land on.

Or, just talk to ANY immigrant who has come here from any dictatorship, communist or fascist, country..and ask them how they feel about Bush. Could be fascinating for you. You will be shocked to learn that they see the Democrat party as heading into the same policies they escaped, and the Republican party as the defender of liberty.

I know you don't believe it, but I don't care. I am an immigrant myself, and I thank God every day for the legal immigrants who strengthen our country with their influx...and who vote Republican.


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Posted by ng
a resident of Downtown North
on Mar 30, 2008 at 4:42 pm

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Posted by pam
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Mar 30, 2008 at 10:11 pm

perspective, bush is a murdering fascist---- being an ignorant fool who isn't aware of some of what he's done doesn't excuse thi--- and, i didn't support hillary's vote, but she wants the troops home. bush was proud of texas' 'capital punishment record; bush is a smart man and an ignorant fool; he believes in armageddon; he has seen to it that not one penny of "faith-based" finding has gone to jewish or muslim schools; bush is a hater and a racist; the problem is that he doesn't believe this, he only believes the bible he reads every day like you and i read the newspaper. yes, bush is a fascist and more than sadly he is the president of a nation that has been seriously hurt by his ignorance. if there is a god we need thank him now for delivering us from this madman


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Posted by Peter
a resident of another community
on Mar 31, 2008 at 1:21 pm

Before anyone puts any credence in June's clipping, they might want to look up the author of that column Web Link
He's a conservative operative, one of the people behind the Swift Boat crowd, an accused plagarist, and a promoter of an odd belief called aibotic oil.


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Posted by june
a resident of Palo Verde
on Mar 31, 2008 at 3:08 pm




The more I learn about Mr. Obama and his wife, the less I like what I see.

I think most of middle America will have the same reaction as the general election campaign unfolds.

Which in a way is sad as I had once high hopes that Mr. Obama would be someone that I could accept as President should he win the election.

Now I distrust him as much as I distrust Mrs. Clinton.

Good 'ol John McCain is looking more and more attractive with each passing day (and I never thought I'd be saying that).







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Posted by Coulter Loves Limbaugh
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Mar 31, 2008 at 3:13 pm

june: You would distrust anyone who is running one the democratic ticket
I suggest you do not vote for either of them--pull the lever for mcCain--I am sure your husband Gary will be doing the same


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Posted by perspective
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 31, 2008 at 3:14 pm

ol' McCain wasn't wrong about Al-Qaeda coming out of Shia dominated Iran.

Read Amir Taheri, an Iranian-French man, and his editorial in today's Wall Street Journal. In fact, go to his website, Web Link and read anything he has written, ever, and get a good education. The problem with Americans is that we are so good natured, and our culture is so generous and kind, that it isn't in our world view to understand that there are truly hateful, vicious people in the world sheltered by governments.

Pam, luckily, you are free to criticize Bush or anyone else in government and feel completely safe from government reprisals, unlike under fascists.


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Posted by perspective
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 31, 2008 at 3:17 pm

Coulter loves Limbaugh: I suggest you read a few books by ex-Democrats who have left, the Dem party because the Dem party has moved so far left, and I don't mean that in a good way, it has left the majority of Americans. If you are at all interested, say so and I will give you a reading list.

More and more Americans are realizing this, especially now as Obama McGovernizes himself and Clinton's insistence on repeating fantasies makes it impossible to believe that she is just "misspeaking".


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Posted by perspective
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 31, 2008 at 3:22 pm

Actually, what is REALLY happening is that the facade is being peeled off the left, and gullible, innocent people are seeing Obama, Clinton and teh Dem party for who they really are.


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Posted by sue
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Mar 31, 2008 at 4:09 pm




Obama is a born liar - he lied about his pastor, he lied about uniting America [he has caused more divisions with the choice of his church than anybody in history], and his murky Chicago dealings are coming back to haunt him.Not to mention the falsehoods in his biography.

I think had the truth about Obama's leanings - extremely liberal - come out before, Obama would not be front-runner today.

If the Democratic Party is stupid enough - and I already detect panic in the DNC, they will avoid Obama and give the nomination to Clinton.

Obama will lose so badly it will be a joke.
He has won caucauses, but only one big state, Illinois - he has come a cropper in all the big blue states which the Dems need to carry the election.

Those states were solidly Clinton - something not lost on the DNC. Now they want to stop Clinton before she wins Pennsylvannia and makes their stupidity even more apparent.

If Dems want to have a chance to win, Clinton is the only answer. Obama is far too liberal to win over middle America.

What's more the DNC knows this. I think they are willing to lose this election to stop Clinton having a chance to win.

Make no mistake, Obama will lose come November if he is the nominee






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Posted by benjamin
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Mar 31, 2008 at 4:19 pm



Lieberman assured Connecticut voters in 2006 that he was committed to helping elect a Democratic presidential candidate in 2008, and asked about the senator going back on his word.

"It's not the Bill Clinton-Al Gore party, which was strong internationalists, strong on defense, pro-trade, pro-reform in our domestic government," Lieberman said.

"It's been effectively taken over by a small group on the left of the party that is protectionist, isolationist, and very, very hyperpartisan. So it pains me."

Pains me too!







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Posted by steve
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Mar 31, 2008 at 5:01 pm



In recent weeks, talk of the potential emergence of former Vice President Al Gore as a consensus candidate for the Democratic Party nomination for President has increased in volume.

Newsweek columnist Eleanor Clift and Time columnist Joe Klein have both noted that Gore could provide the Democrats a winning exit strategy from the protracted Obama-Clinton primary battle,

a fight that promises to get bloodier in the weeks ahead.



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Posted by pam
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Mar 31, 2008 at 5:25 pm

sue, you're right. the caucuses are a real problem because they pretty much guarantee that hard working people with busy lives, seniors, disabled, etc. are left out. they're popularity contests. obama has been very effective in letting the eastern establishment press push hillary around, and let her look like a race baiter and so on. obama is a good man with great oratory skills, but that's as far as it goes. a deep look at his policy positions reveals a lot of right of center stuff that would shock most of his base. another thing that has been bothering me about obama is his deceptions about his father and refusal to acknowledge gender baiting in this campaign. i don't think he's the leader we need. last, just look at this sorry attempt by alice walker to use what seems like an analysis of the "white" woman as a slam against hillary, based on race. it's pretty amazing that this sort of thing can be said and not roundly criticized by the press...walker is showing a lot of anger, and using that anger to justify her own racism


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Posted by pam
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Mar 31, 2008 at 5:26 pm

Web Link


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Posted by perspective
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 31, 2008 at 7:19 pm

pam, we agree on almost everything in your last post, except that I have studied Barack's "positions" and voting record...exactly what is to the "right" of Hilary, except for the Health Insurance plan he has that ( unless he has changed it) requires everyone to buy private health insurance instead of giving Big Brother the ability to decide what your health insurance looks like, which Hil wants?

I can't believe anyone really believes that Barack is to the right of Hilary.

Aside from that, though, you are right on about the media support and race baiting that is going on by Barack supporters, and the fact that apparently Barack is lying if his lips are moving ( though, frankly, I am hard pressed to define Hil as honest)


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Posted by perspective
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 31, 2008 at 7:22 pm

sue, I have to admit, I was completely shocked, ( even with my having come so far in seeing the Democrats for who they have become) to find that the Dems let CAUCUSES decide, instead of votes, for so many of their states, and even more shocked to find out that, in their wisdom, they set in place a system meant to OVERTURN THE PEOPLE'S VOTES ..the Superdelegate system.

Who in the world ever thought that ANY American, no matter how left wing, would think it is a good idea to throw our their vote?


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Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on Mar 31, 2008 at 9:19 pm

"OVERTURN THE PEOPLE'S VOTES"!!?! You mean the Dems have gone over to the Florida Elections System? I'm shocked, shocked.


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Posted by perspective
a resident of Midtown
on Apr 1, 2008 at 7:13 am

Paul, evidently you are not aware what the purpose of the Superdelegates is.


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