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Foothill may nix Cubberley for alternate site

Original post made on Mar 11, 2008

A possible $35 million deal with the City of Palo Alto to buy or lease eight acres of Cubberley Community Center for a new campus for the Foothill-De Anza Community College District may not happen after all.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, March 12, 2008, 12:00 AM

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Posted by Herb Borock
a resident of Professorville
on Mar 11, 2008 at 3:54 pm

Why is Foothill College considering the site at 395 Page Mill Road that the owner convinced the City Council to rezone so he could lease it to Google, as reported by the Palo Alto Weekly last July? Web Link


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Posted by a long time resident
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Mar 11, 2008 at 11:10 pm

The city and the school district should never give up any of the Cubberly site.

With the possibility of hundreds of new school children arriving is South Palo Alto in the next few or more years this is the only vacant or could be vacant site for any level of school.

The city and the school district have been selling off school and city property for many years to help their budgets.

With things going the way they are in the city (high utility bills, high density housing projects with no parks,improved roads,etc associated with them ,traffic jams and long waits at intersections, flooding of large areas of the city, etc,etc) the schools are really the only attracion for people to buy super high priced housing here. If the schools deteriorate house prices could drop like a bomb.

Also as a note: The people in much or all of the area were not informed at any time about the city selling its portion of Cubberly. No newspaper articles until very recently either.

The streets around Cubberly are jammed with traffic at commute times also.


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Posted by Lois
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 12, 2008 at 4:18 am

"The streets around Cubberley are jammed with traffic at commute times also." - Not true. The four lane stretch of Middlefield Road between San Antonio and Charleston is the least used section of Middlefield anywhere in Palo Alto. Also the Foothill students will be arriving and leaving the campus at different times during the day and evening due to staggered starting times of classes.

A School District Committee has already studied the future facilities needs of the PAUSD. Their report says that a new high school will not be needed in the foreseeable future. Reason, both Gunn and Paly combined have over 100 acres of land on which to expand. New building plans call for two story classrooms and possibly increasing the size of both high school to perhaps 25,000 students each.

The School District has welcomed the idea of turning the City's owned eight acres of Cubberley into a Campus for Foothill College. They are looking forward to the opportunity of working with Foothill on joint learning opportunities.

The School District owned land at Cubberley, the remaining 27 acres presently leased to the City, is big enough for a Middle School or Technical High School.

For the future the School District has available to it 3 additional elementary school sites, Garland, Greendell and Fremont Hills if they need to expand at the elementary level.

"The people in much of the area were not informed at any time about the city selling its portion of Cubberley". Untrue, the City has no intention of selling it's 8 acres of Cubberley because they plan to "lease" their 8 acres to Foothill.


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Posted by Parent
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Mar 12, 2008 at 9:12 am

Lois does seem to have her facts correct.

However, Cubberly could be used for a myriad of uses by PAUSD. One of its biggest advantages is the fact that it is suitable for a commuter school due to its proximity to Middlefield, San Antonio and Charleston and its main entrance is on Middlefield (with lights) rather than a side neighborhood street. This means that it could be ideal for all the boutique programs, K - 8, meaning Ohlone, Hoover, SI, MI, through middle school years where they get names like Connections and Direct Instruction. This would undeniably make room in the elementary and middle schools all over Palo Alto and allow neighborhood kids to go to their neighborhood schools. However, it would not solve all the problems (particularly the crowding in the North at the elementary levels).

It is already used by Foothill/PAUSD as middle college which takes some of our high school students and expanding this would help at the high school level.

Cubberly is vital to our local school needs.


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Posted by Lois
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 12, 2008 at 10:56 am

Correction: "....increasing the size of both high schools to perhaps 2,500 students each - not 25,000".


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Posted by Matt
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Mar 12, 2008 at 1:50 pm

They should consider the Sears site on San Antonio. Home Depot was just denied the site by an amendment to the Shopping Center precise plan. If Sears is considering leaving, then maybe the Community College could build a campus there. It is already a major transportation hub and is within walking distance to San Antonio Caltrain station. It would be a nice complement to the Community School of Art and Music too (Web Link). Just my $0.02.


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Posted by pat
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 13, 2008 at 9:46 am

The Cubberly lease to Foothill was one of the funding sources mentioned to pay for the police building through COPS. What will happen to that plan if the lease doesn't go through?


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Posted by chris
a resident of University South
on Mar 19, 2008 at 4:55 pm

So are buildings 4/5/6 at 1501 Page Mill going on the market?

Did the Weekly ever say what happened to the Google move into 395 Page Mill? Why is Foothill considering it?


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Posted by Sports family
a resident of Midtown
on May 27, 2008 at 10:23 pm

The City does not mention that they're leasing ALL of the community's gymnasiums to Foothill College and the JCC -- they get first right of refusal unless you are a "long-term" priority tenant. In other words, no new sports teams can rent space at Cubberley unless Foothill volunteers their gyms.
All the while, kids in Palo Alto drive to Mountain View and Menlo Park to practice basketball and volleyball at THEIR community centers.
It doesn't make sense to me that we lease our only community gym space to the College, who in turn can (and does) offer classes without regard to whether they benefit Palo Alto citizens.
The Foothill College lease payment does not cover the cost of Cubberley either; we are subsidizing Foothill College using our gymnasiums, while we drive our kids to other towns to play. This is crazy.


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Posted by Sports family
a resident of Midtown
on May 27, 2008 at 10:23 pm

The City does not mention that they're leasing ALL of the community's gymnasiums to Foothill College and the JCC -- they get first right of refusal unless you are a "long-term" priority tenant. In other words, no new sports teams can rent space at Cubberley unless Foothill volunteers their gyms.
All the while, kids in Palo Alto drive to Mountain View and Menlo Park to practice basketball and volleyball at THEIR community centers.
It doesn't make sense to me that we lease our only community gym space to the College, who in turn can (and does) offer classes without regard to whether they benefit Palo Alto citizens.
The Foothill College lease payment does not cover the cost of Cubberley either; we are subsidizing Foothill College using our gymnasiums, while we drive our kids to other towns to play. This is crazy.


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