Fatal fire on Embarcadero deemed accidental

Investigators from Arson Task Force, Coroner's Office find two possible ignition sources for Palo Alto fire

The house fire on Embarcadero Road in Palo Alto that claimed the lives of two men Friday night was accidental and started in the kitchen, investigators determined.

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Posted by Linda M
a resident of another community
on Jan 14, 2014 at 10:15 pm

Rest in Peace Don and Ed.

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Posted by Neighbor
a resident of Triple El
on Jan 15, 2014 at 8:53 am

The Council should find out how much overtime the police and fire departments incurred investigating this simple kitchen fire.

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Posted by Steve
a resident of Menlo Park
on Jan 15, 2014 at 10:21 am

@Neighbor -
We have a tragedy where two men die by fire in their own home and all you can come up with is a slur on public safety officers about the possibility that the investigation may have incurred overtime pay for the officers involved.
Too cynical for me by half.

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Posted by Cur Mudgeon
a resident of Greenmeadow
on Jan 15, 2014 at 10:44 am

It might not have been a simple kitchen fire at first glance.
Eliminating potentially suspicious circumstances takes time.
The council likely doesn't care about O/T anyhow. Small potatoes for them.

RIP to the two victims and condolences to their kin.

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Posted by neighbor
a resident of Midtown
on Jan 15, 2014 at 11:17 am

Where has the empathy and compassion gone in people and for people? Clearly, it was not about the money for those that risk their lives every day to protect, serve and save the lives of others. This was an enormous tragedy and closure for the family and understanding far out way how much it cost...
This makes me very sad........ Condolences to the family and to the first responders..........

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Posted by Sharon
a resident of Fairmeadow
on Jan 15, 2014 at 1:28 pm

As much as I value economy and, being born in 1938, remember deprivation, I think it is exceedingly "penny wise and pound foolish" to make some of the comments I see here. The clutter and too many books and papers, however, I will personally take to heart.

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Posted by Nora Charles
a resident of Stanford
on Jan 15, 2014 at 7:05 pm

A terribly, terribly sad story.

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Posted by Called it in
a resident of Triple El
on Jan 16, 2014 at 1:00 am


"Simple kitchen fires" don't involve 20-foot flames, a demolished interior and two dead people. The beginning may have been simple, but the end results were not. For reasons that will probably never be completely clear, this fire burned way out of control very quickly.

As for the time it took. Yes, the fire dept. and police watched the house overnight. Why? Because it was filled with hot spots and near several other homes. They waited until Sunday to investigate when it was safe to do so. They completed the investigation within a day.

As for overtime, well, the fire happened on a Friday night. In case you hadn't noticed, Fridays are followed by weekends. That said, I wouldn't assume there were vast amounts of overtime involved. Many people have weekend shifts. Unlike you, most of us are aware that bad things happen outside of standard office hours.

Your continuing need to use this tragedy for your own agenda is ugly. It upsets me--I can only imagine what it's like for the families of the victims who have my deepest condolences.

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Posted by certainly sad
a resident of Midtown
on Jan 20, 2014 at 10:07 pm

I knew him quite awhile, and he was a good man.

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